Approximating the force on a dipole Taylor series

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The discussion revolves around approximating the net force exerted on one dipole by another using a Taylor series expansion. The problem is situated within the context of electrostatics, specifically involving dipoles and their interactions at distances where one dipole is much farther from the other.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the initial formulation of the net force and the need to use a Taylor series for approximation. There is an exploration of how to manipulate the expressions to fit the form required for expansion.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants attempting to clarify the steps necessary to apply the Taylor series. Some guidance has been offered regarding the form of the expressions needed for expansion, but there is no consensus on the next steps or the correctness of the previous formulations.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that the distance r is much greater than the separation s of the dipoles, which is a critical condition for the approximations being discussed. There is also a note of caution regarding the accuracy of the expressions being used in the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Show that the magnitude of the net force exerted on one dipole by the other dipole is given approximately by:$$F_{net}≈\frac {6q^2s^2k} {r^4}$$
for ##r\gg s##, where r is the distance from one dipole to the other dipole, s is the distance across one dipole. (Both dipoles are of equal length and both have charges of magnitude q).

Homework Equations


##F=\frac {kq_1q_2} {r^2}##
##f(x)=\sum_{n=0}^\infty \frac {f^{(n)}(0)} {n!} x^n##

The Attempt at a Solution


I worked out the net force that a dipole would be acting on another as: $$F_{net}=kq^2(\frac {1} {(r-s)^2}+\frac {1} {(r+s)^2}-\frac {2} {r^2})$$ This equation is right because I plugged in values for r and s given r is much greater than s, and got the same value for if I used the approximated equation at the top.

I just lack the knowledge of using a taylor series to approximate my equation into the desired one.
 
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Zack K said:
I just lack the knowledge of using a taylor series to approximate my equation into the desired one.
First step is to get everything inside parentheses into the form 1±α, by suitable division, where α<<1.
 
haruspex said:
First step is to get everything inside parentheses into the form 1±α, by suitable division, where α<<1.
Ok, so then I get $$F_{net}=kq^2(\frac {1} {(1-α)^2}+\frac {1} {(1+α)^2}-\frac {2} {r^2})$$ Do I then expand both the parentheses into polynomials?
 
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Zack K said:
Ok, so then I get $$F_{net}=kq^2(\frac {1} {(1-α)^2}+\frac {1} {(1+α)^2}-\frac {2} {r^2})$$ Do I then expand both the parentheses into polynomials?
I wrote "get it into the form, by suitable division", not "arbitrarily change it". It still has to follow from the equation you wrote in post #1.
(Or did you make a mistake in typing out the post?)
 

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