Arbitrary Union of Sets Question

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The discussion revolves around the union and intersection of sets defined by natural numbers, specifically examining the sets \(A_n = \{n\}\) for each \(n \in \mathbb{N}\). Participants are exploring the implications of set notation and definitions in this context.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are questioning the notation and definitions related to the union and intersection of the sets \(A_n\). There is confusion about whether the union results in a set of natural numbers or a set of singleton sets. Some participants are also discussing how to prove the equality of two sets.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing clarifications on set notation and definitions. There is an acknowledgment of the need for a clearer problem statement, and some guidance has been offered regarding the conditions for membership in the union and intersection.

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There are indications that the problem statement may have been initially incomplete, leading to confusion about the definitions of the sets involved.

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Homework Statement



For each ##n \in \mathbb{N}##, let ##A_{n}=\left\{n\right\}##. What are ##\bigcup_{n\in\mathbb{N}}A_{n}## and ##\bigcap_{n\in\mathbb{N}}A_{n}##.

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I know that this involves natural numbers some how, I am just confused on a notation thing.
Is ##\bigcup_{n\in\mathbb{N}}A_{n}= \left \{ 1,2,3,... \right \}## or##\bigcup_{n\in\mathbb{N}}A_{n}= \left \{ \left\{1\right\},\left\{2\right\},... \right \}##.

To me it makes more sense that this is set of each set of every natural numbers, but somehow I think this is wrong and can't wrap my head around it.
 
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The problem statement is incomplete, it doesn't describe ##A_n##.

In terms of notation,
  • ##x \in \cup_{n\in\mathbb{N}} A_n ## if and only if there exists ##n\in\mathbb{N}## such that ##x\in A_n## (##x## belongs to at least one of the ##A_n##).
  • ##x \in \cap_{n\in\mathbb{N}} A_n ## if and only if ##x\in A_n## for all ##n\in\mathbb{N}## (##x## belongs to all ##A_n##).
 
geoffrey159 said:
The problem statement is incomplete, it doesn't describe ##A_n##.

In terms of notation,
  • ##x \in \cup_{n\in\mathbb{N}} A_n ## if and only if there exists ##n\in\mathbb{N}## such that ##x\in A_n## (##x## belongs to at least one of the ##A_n##).
  • ##x \in \cap_{n\in\mathbb{N}} A_n ## if and only if ##x\in A_n## for all ##n\in\mathbb{N}## (##x## belongs to all ##A_n##).
I updated it to define An.
 
TyroneTheDino said:

Homework Statement



For each ##n \in \mathbb{N}##, let ##A_{n}##. What are ##\bigcup_{n\in\mathbb{N}}A_{n}## and ##\bigcap_{n\in\mathbb{N}}A_{n}##.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I know that this involves natural numbers some how, I am just confused on a notation thing.
Is ##\bigcup_{n\in\mathbb{N}}A_{n}= \left \{ 1,2,3,... \right \}## or##\bigcup_{n\in\mathbb{N}}A_{n}= \left \{ \left\{1\right\},\left\{2\right\},... \right \}##.
##\bigcup_{n\in\mathbb{N}}A_{n}## means ##A_1 \cup A_2 \cup \dots \cup A_n## and similar for the intersection.
TyroneTheDino said:
To me it makes more sense that this is set of each set of every natural numbers, but somehow I think this is wrong and can't wrap my head around it.
 
Ok so you infered that the union was equal to ##\mathbb{N}##. How do you prove that two sets are equal ?
 

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