Arc Length of y = (2/3) * (x^2-1) ^ (3/2): Solve It

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the arc length of the function y = (2/3) * (x^2 - 1)^(3/2) over the interval 1 <= x <= 3. Participants are examining the derivative and the integral required to compute the length.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the derivative of the function and its implications for calculating the arc length. There is mention of potential substitutions and the correctness of the derivative's form. Some express confusion over the results obtained from computational tools like Wolfram Alpha.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the derivative and its simplification, suggesting that the problem may not require substitution as initially thought. There is acknowledgment of errors in arithmetic and the need for careful calculation, but no consensus on a final method has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note discrepancies in the results obtained from different calculations, and there is a reference to specific values that were expected from the definite integral. Typos and arithmetic errors are acknowledged as factors in the discussion.

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Homework Statement



y = (2/3) * (x^2 - 1) ^ (3/2) 1 <= x <= 3
Length = ?

Homework Equations



L = [tex]\int\sqrt{1 + (dy/dx)^2} dx[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



dy/dx y = (2/3) * (x^2 - 1) ^ (3/2) =
2x * sqrt(x - 1)

Any ideas for a proper substitution? The answer on wolfram seems ridiculous. :bugeye:
 
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Hmm... it seems wolfram is being ridiculous on this problem. But you don't need a substitution here. Observe that the derivative is 2x√(x² - 1), not 2x√(x - 1). So once you go back and do the arithmetic correctly, you will find that 1 + (dy/dx)² is the square of a polynomial (specifically, it is (2x² - 1)²). After that, this problem should be a piece of cake.
 
Citan Uzuki said:
Hmm... it seems wolfram is being ridiculous on this problem. But you don't need a substitution here. Observe that the derivative is 2x√(x² - 1), not 2x√(x - 1). So once you go back and do the arithmetic correctly, you will find that 1 + (dy/dx)² is the square of a polynomial (specifically, it is (2x² - 1)²). After that, this problem should be a piece of cake.

I actually knew it was x2, just a typing error. I actually got (2x2 - 1)2
the first time I calculated it, but I didn't get the right answer for the definite integral at 1 through 3 (15.333).

My solution:

(2x)^2 * (x^2 - 1) + 1 = 4x^4 - 4x^2 + 1 = (2x^2 - 1)^2

= (2/3) * x3 -x + C ] (1-3) = 15.333 :rolleyes: Nevermind . . .

Thanks for your help :]
 
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Glad you figured it out. It looks like you have the theory right, and were just getting caught up with typos.
 
Citan Uzuki said:
Glad you figured it out. It looks like you have the theory right, and were just getting caught up with typos.
Story of my mathematical life.
 

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