Arc Length Circle Quadrant 1: Solve ∫√(1+(dy/dx)2)dx

In summary, the problem asks for the arc length of a circle in the first quadrant, with an equation of x2 + y2 = a2. The formula for arc length is given as arc length = ∫ √(1 + (dy/dx)2) dx. The attempt at a solution involved deriving the circle equation and substituting it into the arc length equation, resulting in an integral of ∫ √(1 + (-x/√(a2-x2))2) dx. However, the student got stuck and did not use trigonometric substitution.
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Homework Statement


find the arc length of a circle in the first quadrant with an equation x2 + y2 = a2

Homework Equations


arc length = ∫ √(1 + (dy/dx)2) dx

The Attempt at a Solution


i got stuck on how to solve the integral
 
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adi adi said:

Homework Statement


find the arc length of a circle in the first quadrant with an equation x2 + y2 = a2

Homework Equations


arc length = ∫ √(1 + (dy/dx)2) dx

The Attempt at a Solution


i got stuck on how to solve the integral
Well, show us where you got stuck.

Did you calculate dy/dx for the arc of the circle, using its equation?
 
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SteamKing said:
Well, show us where you got stuck.

Did you calculate dy/dx for the arc of the circle, using its equation?
yeah, i make the circle equation into y= √(a2-x2) , and then put it into the arc length equation.
the problem is i can't solve my integral equation.
 
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You still didn't show the integral you want to solve and how you got it.

Did you try the usual trigonometric substitutions?
 
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mfb said:
You still didn't show the integral you want to solve and how you got it.

Did you try the usual trigonometric substitutions?
first i derive my y=√(a2-x2) into y'= - x/√(a2-x2)
and then put it into arc length equation = ∫ √(1+(dy/dx)2) dx
resulting ∫ √(1+(- x/√(a2-x2))2) dx
and i got stuck there. i don't know how to solve my equation, and i didnt use trigonometric substitution
 
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adi adi said:
and i didnt use trigonometric substitution
Then you should try that (after simplifying the expression a bit).
 

1. What is the formula for finding the arc length of a circle in Quadrant 1?

The formula for finding the arc length of a circle in Quadrant 1 is ∫√(1+(dy/dx)2)dx, where ∫ represents the integral and dy/dx represents the derivative of the function.

2. How do you solve for ∫√(1+(dy/dx)2)dx?

To solve for ∫√(1+(dy/dx)2)dx, you will need to use the formula for arc length and integrate the function using the given limits of integration. This may involve using trigonometric identities and substitution to simplify the integrand.

3. What does the symbol ∫ represent in the formula for arc length?

The symbol ∫ represents the integral, which is a mathematical operation that calculates the area under a curve. In the context of arc length, it is used to find the length of a curve.

4. Why is the derivative of the function included in the formula for arc length?

The derivative of the function, dy/dx, is included in the formula for arc length because it represents the rate of change of the function at any given point. This is necessary for accurately calculating the arc length of a curve.

5. How does the formula for arc length change for circles in other quadrants?

The formula for arc length will change for circles in other quadrants because the limits of integration will be different. For example, in Quadrant 2, the limits would be from π/2 to π instead of 0 to π/2 in Quadrant 1. Additionally, the derivative of the function may also change depending on the quadrant.

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