Arc length parametrisation question (error in notes?)

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of parameters in the context of arc length parametrization in a curve. Participants are examining the relationship between time and arc length in the context of a mathematical representation of a curve.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the notation in their course notes, specifically the use of the variable s as both a dummy variable for time and as a length parameter, suggesting a potential misunderstanding.
  • Another participant clarifies that t is the time parameter and s represents arc length, indicating that s=0 corresponds to t=0 and s=|C| corresponds to t=1.
  • A third participant raises a point about t being a time parameter that is not represented on the coordinate axes, implying a distinction between time and spatial representation.
  • One participant explains that integrating the speed vector of a parameterized curve yields the length of the curve, emphasizing that y represents position in Euclidean space and can depend on various parameters, with s specifically denoting the length traversed.
  • It is noted that there is no physical concept of time in this context, as t is treated merely as a parameter, similar to s.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the parameters t and s, with some asserting that t is merely a parameter while others emphasize its role as time. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these interpretations.

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There are unresolved questions about the definitions and roles of the parameters t and s, particularly in how they relate to time and length in the context of the curve's parametrization.

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This is from my course notes

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In line 3, there's the integral \int_0^t ||y'(s)||ds which represents the length of the curve as a function of t (which I am thinking of as time). Here, I think s is a dummy variable for time.

The equation in line 4, however, says that s is an element of [0, |C|] which seems to imply that s iis a length. Here, it makes sense, because \sigma maps time to length, and so \sigma^{-1} maps length back to time, which goes into the function y and y(t) is spit out (the position vector function of the curve.

But back to the integrand, ||y'(s)|| where the variable s is a length makes no sense to me because y is meant to be function of time, not length. Is there something I'm misunderstanding here?

Thanks
 
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t is the label on the x-axis; s is the arc length. The definitions used here have s=0 when t=0, and that s=|C| when t=1.
 
Isn't t a time parameter which is not represented on the coordinate axes?
 
- if you integrate the speed vector of a parameterized curve whose derivative is never zero( which guarantees that the curve can not back up on itself) the the integral equals the length of the curve.

- y is just the position in Euclidean space of the curve. It can be a function of many different parameters. s is the parameter whose value equals the length of the curve that has been traversed up to that point.

- There is no real concept of time here as in physics. t is just a parameter. s is another parameter.
 

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