Are all material generally covered in Intro to Physics I?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the coverage of material in introductory physics courses, specifically addressing concerns about skipped chapters, such as Equilibrium & Elasticity and Fluid Mechanics, and their implications for future classes and standardized tests like the GRE.

Discussion Character

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Meta-discussion

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express concern about missing chapters and their relevance for future courses or exams, questioning whether these topics will be necessary later.
  • Others argue that it is common for professors to skip certain chapters due to time constraints and that students can self-study these topics if needed.
  • A participant mentions that their class covered all classical mechanics and additional topics but found the pace too fast to absorb the material effectively.
  • Some participants suggest that the purpose of introductory physics is to develop problem-solving skills rather than to cover every topic in depth.
  • There are differing experiences regarding class pacing, with some classes moving quickly and covering extra topics, while others proceed more slowly.
  • One participant notes that fluid mechanics is unlikely to appear on the GRE based on their past experience.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that skipping chapters is common in introductory physics courses, but there are multiple competing views on the implications of this practice for future learning and exam preparation. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the necessity of specific topics for later courses.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the limitations of time in covering all material in detail, suggesting that the introductory course may not provide comprehensive coverage of all relevant topics.

Who May Find This Useful

Students currently enrolled in introductory physics courses, those preparing for the GRE, and individuals interested in the structure and pacing of physics education may find this discussion relevant.

Nano-Passion
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My professors skipped both chapter 11 & 12, Equilibrium & Elasticity and Fluid Mechanics. I'm worried that I will need to know these chapters for later classes or for the GRE.

Has your professor skipped material in your class?
 
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Nothing you see in Physics I is stuff you won't see again in other courses, and if you're only in physics I you've got a long way to go before you start worrying about the GRE.
 
Good grief. Just read the chapters.

As I said before, if you are this high strung, and keep freaking out at the smallest thing, you will be absolutely miserable with a career in science.
 
There's not enough time to cover everything in two semesters in any detail. It's common for professors to skip chapters that aren't directly related to the main point of the class. Nothing is stopping you from reading it on your own and doing the homework. If you're planning to major in physics, teaching yourself a few chapters from an introductory book should be easy.
 
My physics I class went over all of classical mechanics then started chapters on Gravitation, Waves, Fluids and Thermodynamics. Many classes skip a lot of those extra chapters but mine didn't and as a consequence the class was extremely fast paced and I didn't really learn anything about those extra topics (which is a problem since Waves are kinda important in physics 2).

However like everyone says you'll encounter all of those topics again and again in future courses. If you have time, it might be worth a read through on your own so you're familiar with what's involved.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
Good grief. Just read the chapters.

As I said before, if you are this high strung, and keep freaking out at the smallest thing, you will be absolutely miserable with a career in science.

Ahaha.. I'm not freaking out, just wanted a perspective on other classes and whether they also skip chapters or not. I'm actually reading and doing the practice problems on my own. But I'll probably skip fluid mechanics.

eri said:
There's not enough time to cover everything in two semesters in any detail. It's common for professors to skip chapters that aren't directly related to the main point of the class. Nothing is stopping you from reading it on your own and doing the homework. If you're planning to major in physics, teaching yourself a few chapters from an introductory book should be easy.
Agreed. :approve:

Chunkysalsa said:
My physics I class went over all of classical mechanics then started chapters on Gravitation, Waves, Fluids and Thermodynamics. Many classes skip a lot of those extra chapters but mine didn't and as a consequence the class was extremely fast paced and I didn't really learn anything about those extra topics (which is a problem since Waves are kinda important in physics 2).

However like everyone says you'll encounter all of those topics again and again in future courses. If you have time, it might be worth a read through on your own so you're familiar with what's involved.

Are we talking about the same introductory physics course here? Sounds like a bit too much!
 
Some classes work at a quick pace and cover the required material, and have extra time to do another section or two -- my Physics I class was like this, and we had a vote to do Relativity or Thermo :P
 
Highway said:
Some classes work at a quick pace and cover the required material, and have extra time to do another section or two -- my Physics I class was like this, and we had a vote to do Relativity or Thermo :P

Yea.. mine was very slow paced =/

Relativity > thermo =p
 
Nano-Passion said:
My professors skipped both chapter 11 & 12, Equilibrium & Elasticity and Fluid Mechanics. I'm worried that I will need to know these chapters for later classes or for the GRE.

Has your professor skipped material in your class?
It's pretty common to skip those topics. If you need them in a later class, you can either refer back to your current book or there's a chance the topic will get a sufficient review when needed.

While I took the GRE's a long time ago, I'm pretty sure fluid mechanics did not come up. I suggest looking over some GRE practice tests at some point -- preferably after getting through a quantum mechanics course -- to see what material you'll need to review.
 
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The point of introductory physics isn't to teach you physics, but to teach you how to do physics. That's why so many topics are covered: to introduce you to many varied techniques of problem-solving. When I had my intro physics, I was totally lost. I had no idea how to do physics. Then one day, while I was struggling to do physics, I realized I wasn't struggling. This was right about when I started my statics course, which was a year after my introductory physics classes.

Don't fret. You're learning; you're just not learning what you think you're learning :)
 
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Angry Citizen said:
The point of introductory physics isn't to teach you physics, but to teach you how to do physics. That's why so many topics are covered: to introduce you to many varied techniques of problem-solving. When I had my intro physics, I was totally lost. I had no idea how to do physics. Then one day, while I was struggling to do physics, I realized I wasn't struggling. This was right about when I started my statics course, which was a year after my introductory physics classes.

Don't fret. You're learning; you're just not learning what you think you're learning :)

I agree, I've noticed that the challenge is developing a certain mindset on how to do physics. Once I developed an ability on how to do physics, everything else started to be a walk in the park.

The intro course is there to try develop your approach to problems. Which is why when I tutor someone, I try to take a great deal of effort in teaching them how to develop a certain mindset that will make physics easy.

Redbelly98 said:
It's pretty common to skip those topics. If you need them in a later class, you can either refer back to your current book or there's a chance the topic will get a sufficient review when needed.

While I took the GRE's a long time ago, I'm pretty sure fluid mechanics did not come up. I suggest looking over some GRE practice tests at some point -- preferably after getting through a quantum mechanics course -- to see what material you'll need to review.

Great idea, thanks.
 

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