Are Atheists Shaping UK School Curriculums?

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Atheists are launching a campaign to challenge the presence of Christian societies, collective worship, and religious education in UK schools, advocating for equal representation of their beliefs. Supporters argue that as long as Christianity is taught, atheists should have the right to promote their views, emphasizing the need for a balanced religious education. Critics question whether teaching atheism might lead to similar indoctrination as traditional religions, potentially creating uncritical followers. The AHS clarifies that their goal is not to undermine religious education but to foster dialogue and critical thinking among students regarding various belief systems. This initiative aims to address religious privilege in schools and promote understanding of secular perspectives.
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TheStatutoryApe said:
I have avoided this discussion since it has already been brought up and beat to death several times. Suffice it to say that I consider atheism a belief system. I know that most of the people here will disagree with me and none of us are likely to change our perspectives so I prefer not to argue the matter with any one.
As for what would be taught? The idea that there are scientific explanations for everything and that they can be just as beautiful and meaningful as godly miracles. The idea that morals/ethics can be determined through logical analysis. Just a couple ideas.

Isn't science ...and evolution in particular...already in the standard curriculum?

Your "beautiful and meaningful" description sounds good, but what do atheists actually want to change? If the answer is to "teach" that God doesn't exist...then the debate will continue.
 
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WhoWee said:
I believe you've made my point obvious to all of the objective people.
No, he actually refuted your point. If "don't kill" is the law in all the countries where the influence of christianity is very small, then it makes very little sense to claim that the reason why murder is against the law in your country is influence from the commandments.

TheStatutoryApe said:
You asked about the last time atheists were "attacked". It happens fairly often. People are physically threatened, lose their jobs, and are just generally harassed and derided on a fairly regular basis. When I was a little kid I had other little kids telling me I was going to go to hell when I said that jesus wasn't my savior, and I live in a liberal state.
I've heard that from other sources as well, so I don't doubt it, but I have to say that all those things are as strange to me as dressing women in beekeeper suits is to people in your country.
 
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Fredrik said:
No, he actually refuted your point.
Oops! I think you've just joined me (along with jimmysnyder, hans and mgb_phys) in getting kicked out of Whowee's list of "all the objective people".
 
  • #124
Gokul43201 said:
Oops! I think you've just joined me (along with jimmysnyder, hans and mgb_phys) in getting kicked out of Whowee's list of "all the objective people".

I do whatever I can to unite people.:rolleyes:

(sidenote...Gee, isn't that what Obama is doing?)
 
  • #125
robertm said:
Understanding the roles that the many different forms of religious belief have played in human history is, I think, worthwhile to study. Unless you assume that religion is something more than a cultural phenomenon, there is no reason that all its many forms, implications, and preachments should not be laid open for all to see.

However, most religious people want to have their cake and eat it too, i.e. they want a particular brand of culture and belief to be given an understood preference in the classroom.

Oh, by the way, nothing is taught in any church, christian or otherwise, things are simple asserted.
I would disagree with the last statement. I taught Sunday school classes for several years. The lesson/discussion topics included history, comparative religion, morals and ethics. While the class was at a Unitarian Universalist Fellowship/Church, I did include all the major religions, as well as some not so major. I also served on the Fellowship board for three years.

I'm neither a theist (at least not a traditional one) or atheist, but perhaps more of an agnostic. It's not something I really worry about.
 
  • #126
WhoWee said:
Isn't science ...and evolution in particular...already in the standard curriculum?

Your "beautiful and meaningful" description sounds good, but what do atheists actually want to change? If the answer is to "teach" that God doesn't exist...then the debate will continue.

Science class teaches science. It does not necessarily teach any philosophy or belief system that embraces science and reason as something deeply meaningful. While some so-called "militant" atheists may wish to push the idea that there is no god the general idea really is that answers, inspiration, and a meaningful life can be found outside of gods and holy books.
 
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