Are atomic energies increasing as the Universe expands?

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The discussion centers on the implications of the Friedmann-Robertson-Walker (FRW) metric on atomic energies as the Universe expands. It establishes that while the FRW metric describes the expansion of the Universe, it does not apply to bound systems like hydrogen atoms. The energy levels of such bound systems remain unchanged despite cosmic expansion, as their internal forces dictate their behavior, not the expansion of space. Therefore, the assertion that hydrogen atoms will have increased energy in the future due to cosmic expansion is incorrect.

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Starting from the FRW metric (for simplicity flat space, radial direction only):
$$ds^2=-c^2dt^2+a(t)^2dr^2$$
If we take dt=0 then the proper distance ds(t) between two spatially separated points at cosmological time t is given by:
$$ds(t)=a(t)dr$$
Now at the present time t_0 we can define a(t_0)=1 so that we also have:
$$ds(t_0)=dr$$
Therefore by eliminating dr in the above equations we find:
$$ds(t)=a(t)\ ds(t_0)$$
If we define ds(t)=1 so that a hydrogen atom has a unit proper diameter, at any time t, then the equivalent diameter at the present time t_0 is given by:
$$ds(t_0)=\frac{1}{a(t)}$$
According to quantum mechanics the mass/energy of a quantum system is inversely proportional to its size.

Therefore if the mass/energy of the hydrogen atom at time t is one unit then the mass/energy of an equivalent atomic system at the present time t_0 is a(t) units.

Thus can one infer that hydrogen atoms at time t in the future have an energy that is a factor a(t) higher relative to the energy of hydrogen atoms today?
 
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The FRW metric applies only to a homogeneus and isotropic system. You cannot use it inside an atom, for example. And the expansion of the universe doesn't change the laws of nature, so the same energy levels exist also in the expanded universe.
 
jcap said:
can one infer that hydrogen atoms at time
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t in the future have an energy that is a factor
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a(t) higher relative to the energy of hydrogen atoms today?

No, because a hydrogen atom is a bound system, and your reasoning is not valid for bound systems. It's only valid for objects which are "comoving", i.e., their relative motion is determined by the expansion of the universe. The individual parts of bound systems do not meet that criterion; their relative motion (if any) is determined by the forces binding them together (in the case of the hydrogen atom, the electromagnetic force between the electron and proton).
 

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