Are Middle Eastern Religions Harmful to Society?

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The discussion centers around the belief that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam have caused more harm than good for humanity. Key points include the assertion that these religions control followers through fear, the concept of sin, and the promise of eternal damnation for non-believers. The conversation critiques the shared elements of these faiths, such as monotheism and the use of dogma to suppress questioning. There is a debate about the role of politics in corrupting these religions and whether their historical atrocities are a result of their teachings or human nature. Participants also explore the idea that ideologies, including atheistic ones like communism, can lead to similar destructive outcomes. The dialogue touches on the complexities of defining religion and the impact of various belief systems on society, emphasizing that human greed and the quest for power often drive violence rather than religion itself. Overall, the thread reflects a critical examination of the influence of major world religions and the broader implications of belief systems on human behavior.
  • #91
12345, Just because a higher power does violence doesn't make that higher power wrong. In fact, byt almost the definition of a higher power, you can't understand everything that it does.
 
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  • #92
I thought religious discussion was barred from this forum. In any case the seven pages I have just read through are entertaining. There is one crucial point that no one has touched on;
Religion is man's idea on the word of God, in the same vein as science so called is man's idea on the works of God.
Now, just as there are so many different theories (man's ideas) of physics which all hope to unite as one grand TOE but are yet hostile with respect to each other, the religions (man's ideas again) that men have created all hope to unite in a grand TOE but yet are also hostile toward one another.
However, just as we know that there is a grand design to the universe and its creation there is also the true comprehension of the word of God.
 
  • #93
StonedPanda said:
In fact, byt almost the definition of a higher power,

exactly how is it the 'definition' of a higher power? :rolleyes: :confused:
 
  • #94
I don't. Althought your reasoning of upgrades has historical merit, I wouldn't call either an 'upgrade' because both upgrades have caused more violence than the former.
I havn't read the whole thread, but I don't think Judaism has not caused nearly as much suffering as Christianity, or even Islam. If any, in fact, hasn't it been the jews that were on the receiving end of most of this?
 
  • #95
Higher power is a being (aka, something that exists) of a higher or larger awareness and/or existence than humanity.


The details depend on the religion.
 
  • #96
Razi Abid said:
The difference is that Judaism is an old religion, its upgrade is Christianity, and Christianity's upgrade is Islam.
WHO AGREES WITH ME
Razi :smile:
The next upgrade involves a waste bin... :devil:
 
  • #97
- They all use the tactic of monotheism. They all say that there is only one God, and it is a sin to even think about questioning the ways of God.

- They all employ the use of sin. They control the behavior of the people by asserting that certain actions are inherently bad, and if one commits such actions the omnicient God will know about it.

- They all say that their dogma is the solemn word of God, and it is to be followed without question.

- They all use the concept of eternal damnation for the infidels.

- They all justify transgression against the infidels.

- They all employ the tactic of sexual sin. This tactic is used so as to ensure that every act of sex leads to a pregnancy in a controlled environment (aka a marriage). This is inadvertenty done so as to strengthen the numbers of those practicing the religion. Seriously, most of the long-running successful religions have employed this tactic. It is a mechanism of self-sustainment.

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong.

- They all employ the use of sin. They control the behavior of the people by asserting that certain actions are inherently bad, and if one commits such actions the omnicient God will know about it.

What is exactly bad about this? Are you saying that any religion or structure of believes with rules are wrong? And establishing the believe in an omnicient being is bad too?

- They all say that their dogma is the solemn word of God, and it is to be followed without question.

This is absolutely untrue. Jesus and his disciples not only thought it was okay to be questioned, they encouraged it! After preaching Jesus often asked people "What do you think of this?"

- They all use the concept of eternal damnation for the infidels.

In Judisms there is no concept of "Hell" and there is no biblical support for eternal pain and suffering for sinners in the Christian Bible.

- They all justify transgression against the infidels.

Not all transgressions are justified in Judism or Islam. According to the Christian Bible (despite what the Church tells you), you are not even suppost to participate in any type of warfare, you are suppost to be a pacifist.

- They all employ the tactic of sexual sin. This tactic is used so as to ensure that every act of sex leads to a pregnancy in a controlled environment (aka a marriage). This is inadvertenty done so as to strengthen the numbers of those practicing the religion. Seriously, most of the long-running successful religions have employed this tactic. It is a mechanism of self-sustainment.

So teaching your children your believes is wrong? What you are saying is that children should be shielded from all opinions until they are old enough to make their own decision? Sorry but this is flat out ridiculous.
 
  • #98
Hello!
I am back religion guys.
But first let me introduce myself, i am Syed Razi Abid Naqvi, a sole muslim. And one from the offsprings of our prophet Muhammed(pbuh), you may identify me by the name 'Syed'. I have actually joined the forum just to make all of you correct. Middle-Eastern religions are the only religions which are correct. Christianity, Judaism and Islam are the correct religions.
The difference is that Judaism is an old religion, its upgrade is Christianity, and Christianity's upgrade is Islam.
WHO AGREES WITH ME
Razi

I'll save this forum by being filled with yes/no posts.

The answer to your question is that...

1) There are quite a few muslims who agree with you
2) No one else agrees with you.

I suggest you go to a muslim forum. The people on such a forum might think you are clever at the very least they will agree with you. Continuing to post this sort of opinion will neither make the people in this forum think you are clever nor will they (in the main) agree with you.
 

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