Are SI Units Equivalent in Differential Equations?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the equivalence of SI units in the context of differential equations, specifically examining whether both sides of an equation must have matching units. Participants explore this concept through the example of the equation \(\frac{dP}{dx}=\beta P+C\), where \(P\) represents power in watts and \(x\) is a length in meters.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the equivalence of SI units applies to differential equations, referencing the equation \(E=mc^2\) as a basis for comparison.
  • Another participant suggests that the derivative \(dP/dx\) can be approximated as \(\Delta P/\Delta x\), leading to units of W/m.
  • It is asserted that both sides of any equation must have the same units to be physically meaningful, with a note on the treatment of constants in different unit systems.
  • In the equation \(\frac{dP}{dx}=\beta P+C\), it is proposed that the units of \(\beta\) should be \(\mathrm{m}^{-1}\) and the units of \(C\) should be \(\mathrm{W/m}\).
  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the constant \(C\), which is referred to as spontaneous emission power, and its relation to power measured in watts.
  • Another participant suggests that it may be appropriate to point out an error related to the terminology used for constant \(C\).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that units must match on both sides of the equation, but there is some confusion regarding the interpretation of the constant \(C\) and its implications for the overall understanding of the equation.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the terminology used for the constant \(C\) and its relation to power, which may affect the clarity of the discussion.

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Hi all,
I would like to know if any of you know about anything the equivalence of SI units for differential equations? For example, for the equation

E=mc2 SI units for RHS must equal LHS. I am wondering if this would apply to differential equations?

I recently came across a journal paper with the following forumula:

\frac{dP}{dx}=\beta P+C

Where \beta, C, is a constant. x is the length in metres

Now, P equals to the power (in W). In this case, can you evaluate both RHS and LHS in terms of SI units? It seems to me that both the LHS and RHS of this equation is not equivalent.
 
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dP/dx can be approximated to ΔP/Δx to give units of Wm-1
 
mlsbbe said:
Hi all,
I would like to know if any of you know about anything the equivalence of SI units for differential equations? For example, for the equation

E=mc2 SI units for RHS must equal LHS. I am wondering if this would apply to differential equations?
Yep, it applies to all equations. Both sides, and all terms, have to have the same units, otherwise it's not a physically meaningful equation. Note that in some unit systems, certain constants may have a numerical value of 1 and are conventionally omitted - for example, in natural units you can write E = m - but when you switch to another unit system (like SI) in which the constants are not "trivially valued" you need to put them back in.

In
\frac{dP}{dx}=\beta P+C
using SI units, the constant \beta has to have units of \mathrm{m}^{-1} and C has to have units of \mathrm{W/m}.
 
mlsbbe said:
Hi all,
I would like to know if any of you know about anything the equivalence of SI units for differential equations? For example, for the equation

E=mc2 SI units for RHS must equal LHS. I am wondering if this would apply to differential equations?

I recently came across a journal paper with the following forumula:

\frac{dP}{dx}=\beta P+C

Where \beta, C, is a constant. x is the length in metres

Now, P equals to the power (in W). In this case, can you evaluate both RHS and LHS in terms of SI units? It seems to me that both the LHS and RHS of this equation is not equivalent.

The units have to match on the LHS and RHS. So the units of Beta must be 1/m, and the units of C must be W/m.
 
Thanks for your reply guys.

I was confused because the constant C is called the spontaneous emission power, which is confusing since power is measured in watts.
 
mlsbbe said:
Thanks for your reply guys.

I was confused because the constant C is called the spontaneous emission power, which is confusing since power is measured in watts.

Sounds like a good time to gently point out their error to them.
 

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