B Are the stars that we see in constellations within the Milky Way galaxy?

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The stars visible in constellations are primarily located within the Milky Way galaxy, and individual stars are generally too dim to be seen from outside the galaxy. While some galaxies, like Andromeda, can be seen with the naked eye, they do not form part of the constellations. The discussion highlights that the brightest stars in the Magellanic Clouds are also too dim for naked-eye visibility, with most visible stars being relatively close, often within hundreds of light-years. Additionally, some objects like star clusters may be misidentified as individual stars, but they too are part of the Milky Way. Overall, the stars that make up constellations are indeed within our galaxy.
  • #31
Vanadium 50 said:
At one end you need very bright stars to see them, and they are rare, and at the other end you need dim stars to be very close and they are rare too. (Trivia question: how many stars are visible to the naked eye and are dimmer than the sun?)
That depends on the magnitude threshold your eye and sky allow.
Adopting +6,00:
  1. ε Eridani +3,73 +6,19
  2. 61 Cygni +4,7 +7,5 (Not resolved by naked eye but combined magnitude is not commonly quoted. Simple mathematics but some taking of logarithms, so I rounded)
  3. ε Indi +4,69 +6,89
  4. τ Ceti +3,49 +5,68 the brightest of these, about nr. 280 of all stars
  5. ο2 Eridani +4,43 +5,93
  6. 70 Ophiuchi +4,00 +5,66
  7. σ Draconis +4,67 +5,87
  8. 33 Librae +5,64 +6,79
  9. 36 Ophiuchi +4,3 +6,2 (again AB combined magnitude rounded)
  10. 279 Sagittarii +5,31 +6,41
  11. e Eridani +4,26 +5,35
  12. Gliese 892 +5,57 +6,49
  13. ξ Bootis +4,7 +5,59
  14. Gliese 105 +5,79 +6,50
  15. 96 Piscium +5,74 +6,37
  16. 107 Piscium +5,24 +5,86
  17. μ Cassiopeiae +5,17 +5,78
  18. p Eridani +5,0 +6,25
  19. 61 Virginis +4,74 +5,09
  20. 41 Arae +5,55 +5,83
  21. 5 Capricorni +5,73 +6,00
  22. κ1 Ceti +4,84 +5,16
  23. 66 Centauri +4,89 +5,06
  24. 61 Ursae Majoris +5,31 +5,41
  25. 289 Hydrae +5,97 +6,06
  26. 12 Ophiuchi +5,77 +5,82
  27. Gliese 75 +5,63 +5,61
  28. α Mensae +5,09 +5,03 the dimmest lucida and the only lucida to be dimmer than Sun
  29. 54 Piscium +5,88 +5,65
  30. 11 Leonis Minoris +5,40 +5,16
  31. ζ1 Reticuli +5,52 +5,11. Note that ζ2, resolved by naked eye, is so close to Sun in brightness that sources differ on which is the brighter
  32. 85 Pegasi +5,81 +5,34
  33. ρ1 Cancri +5,96 +5,47
  34. 285 Puppis +5,95 +5,45
  35. 24 Virginis +5,54 +4,99
  36. 86 Sagittarii +5,85 +5,28
  37. 58 Eridani +5,63 +5,01
  38. π1 Ursae Majoris +5,63 +4,86
  39. ψ Serpentis +5,86 +5,03
  40. Gliese 1021 +5,80 +4,93
There is a possibility of a few more just beyond 15 pc, but likely not many.
 
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  • #32
Ken G said:
So it's really a remarkable coincidence that the curve looks so perfect, given the statistics.
I think it's just a happy coincidence.
Expanding the grouping to 34 points yields a much dirtier fit.

Dirtier bell data. 2023-04-15 at 20.38.45.png

x-axis: 0.9 * ln( distance in light years )
y-axis: star count

Now if I can just figure out how to extract less than a billion data points from the Gaia database, I'll be able to make some more fancy graphs.
 

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