Are two independent functions constant?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the implications of assuming the wave function in quantum mechanics can be expressed as the product of two independent functions. Participants explore the reasoning behind the assertion that if one side of an equation is a function of time alone and the other side is a function of space alone, then both sides must be constant.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant references Griffith's introduction to quantum mechanics, questioning why the left side of the equation being a function of time and the right side being a function of space implies both sides must be constant.
  • Another participant reiterates the same equation and reasoning, suggesting that if two functions are equal and depend on different variables, they must be constant.
  • A participant challenges the mathematical manipulation used in the argument, asking how one can subtract one side by g(s) and the other side by f(x).
  • Another response clarifies that using different values for time (e.g., t1 and t2) maintains the equality of the right-hand side, which is based on the premise of the statement.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the mathematical justification for the claim that both sides must be constant. There is no consensus on the validity of the reasoning or the manipulation of the functions involved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the independence of the functions and the implications of their equality, which are not fully resolved. The mathematical steps taken by participants are also subject to scrutiny and debate.

Boltzman Oscillation
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I was reading Griffith's introduction to QM book and he finds the time independent Schrödinger equation by assuming the wave function to be the product of two independent functions. He eventually gets to this:

ih(∂ψ/∂x)/(ψ) = -(h^2/2m)*(∂''φ/∂x^2)/φ + V
he says that "the left side is a function of t alone and the right side is a function of x alone. The only way this can possibly be true is if both sides are in fact constant." Why is this true?
 
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Boltzmann Oscillation said:
I was reading Griffith's introduction to QM book and he finds the time independent Boltzmann equation by assuming the wave function to be the product of two independent functions. He eventually gets to this:

ih(∂ψ/∂x)/(ψ) = -(h^2/2m)*(∂''φ/∂x^2)/φ + V
he says that "the left side is a function of t alone and the right side is a function of x alone. The only way this can possibly be true is if both sides are in fact constant." Why is this true?
Given ##g(t)=f(x)## we have ##g(t) - g(s) = f(x)-f(x)=0##. Thus ##g(t)=g(s)## for all ##t,s## which means, that ##g(t)## is constant, e.g. ##g(t)=g(0)##.
 
fresh_42 said:
Given ##g(t)=f(x)## we have ##g(t) - g(s) = f(x)-f(x)=0##. Thus ##g(t)=g(s)## for all ##t,s## which means, that ##g(t)## is constant, e.g. ##g(t)=g(0)##.
How were you able to subtract one side by g(s) and the other side by f(x)?
 
Boltzmann Oscillation said:
How were you able to subtract one side by g(s) and the other side by f(x)?
You can also write ##t_1## and ##t_2## or ##t## and ##t'##. I just need two different values for ##t##. They both have the same right hand side ##f(x)## per premise of the statement.
 

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