Are you suppose to learn something in high school

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The discussion revolves around the value of staying in a high school where one is academically successful but feels unchallenged versus transferring to a more rigorous school environment. Participants explore the implications of educational quality on future college admissions and personal development.

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  • One participant questions whether remaining in a high-performing but unchallenging school is beneficial for college prospects, expressing concern about a lack of meaningful learning.
  • Another suggests transferring to specialized high schools that focus on mathematics and science, citing positive experiences with qualified teachers.
  • A participant reflects on their own experience in a specialized high school, noting that while the teaching quality was high, not all students were engaged.
  • One contributor argues that the purpose of school is to prepare students to be average citizens, suggesting that the educational system is designed to produce compliant individuals rather than critical thinkers.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of appreciating one's current educational opportunities, highlighting that many individuals do not have the chance to graduate high school.

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Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of their current educational environments and the purpose of schooling. There is no consensus on whether staying in a less challenging school is advantageous or if transferring would provide better educational outcomes.

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Some participants reflect on personal experiences and the long-term implications of educational choices, but these reflections are subjective and may not apply universally. The discussion includes a mix of anecdotal evidence and broader societal observations.

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Students considering their high school options, educators interested in student engagement, and individuals reflecting on the purpose of education may find this discussion relevant.

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is it a good idea to, let's say, stay in a high school where your grades are high and you're highly ranked because all the other students don't care about their education and the teachers don't as well, as opposed to transfering to a different high school where you can actually learn something from certified scientists and mathematicians as well as be around those who really want to learn and are 100% committed. my schedule is pretty strong too, but the teachers don't teach, they sit there and baby sit you.

what I am trying to say is, if i stay in a school where I'm at the top of the class would i be more likely to get accepted into an extrodinary college. the problem, however, is that if i do, i will go there having learned nothing.

what is your take on this, you smart geniuses, you.
 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Consortium_for_Specialized_Secondary_Schools_of_Mathematics%2C_Science_and_Technology

Transfer to one of those schools if you live in one of those states.
 
Vid said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Consortium_for_Specialized_Secondary_Schools_of_Mathematics%2C_Science_and_Technology

Transfer to one of those schools if you live in one of those states.

I went to one of these high schools. It was a very good experience from a student-teacher point of view (quite a few had masters or PhD's in the fields they were teaching). The students still didn't all give a hoot though!
 
jhicks said:
I went to one of these high schools. It was a very good experience from a student-teacher point of view (quite a few had masters or PhD's in the fields they were teaching). The students still didn't all give a hoot though!

I went to your standard public high school. I didn't give a hoot either. That was 30 years ago. I'm pretty sure that even when humanity achieves type III status, this will still be the case.

algebra2 said:
but the teachers don't teach, they sit there and baby sit you.

Life is and will be what you make of it. If you have to be baby sat, at least take a good book. :smile:
 
The point of school is to teach people on how to be an average tax paying citizen. The government educates you to be smart enough to pay taxes. By graduating college, you probably just hit the top 10% or even 5% rung of society.

Be glad what you have now. There's a decent number of people who don't or CAN'T graduate from high school and usually end up on the streets mugging graduates like some of us or just dealing drugs.
 

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