Arithmetic and Geometric sequence problem

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The problem involves an arithmetic sequence and a geometric sequence, where the sum of the first three terms of the arithmetic sequence is given, along with a transformation that relates the two sequences. The goal is to find the common ratio of the geometric sequence.

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  • Participants discuss the relationships between the terms of the arithmetic and geometric sequences, noting attempts to express the common ratio and the conditions set by the problem. There are questions about specific algebraic manipulations and the correctness of derived equations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, identifying potential errors in the algebraic steps taken. Some have pointed out specific mistakes in the formulation of equations, while others are revising their expressions based on feedback. There is a collaborative effort to clarify the relationships between the sequences.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement, which includes specific transformations of the arithmetic sequence to derive the geometric sequence. There is an emphasis on ensuring that all terms and operations are correctly represented in the equations.

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The sum of first three numbers of the arithmetic sequence is 54. If you subtract 3 from the first one, leave the second one unchanged and add 12 to the third one you get the first three numbers of the geometric sequence of the form ##ar + ar^2 + ar^3 + ... ar^n ## Find r.

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Using the first clue i got ##a + d = 18 ## ##a ## being the first number in either sequence and ##d ## being the difference of the arithmetic sequence. Next i set up the geometric sequence of the given form ##(a - 3) + (a + d) + (a + 2d + 12) ## . Now ##\frac{a + d}{a - 3} = r ## and from this ##\frac{18}{18 - d} = r ## . Also ##\frac{a + 2d + 12}{a + d} = r^2 ## . Now defining ##18 - \frac{18}{r} = d ## and replacing in the formula above i obtain ##8r - 3 = r^3## . This does not hold for ##r = 2 ## which is the correct solution. Which step did i do wrong?
 
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When you went from ##\frac{a + d}{a - 3} = r## to ##\frac{18}{18 - d} = r##, you forgot the ##-3## of the first denominator.
 
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When you went from ##\frac{a + d}{a - 3} = r## to ##\frac{18}{18 - d} = r##, you forgot the ##-3## of the first denominator.
True but didnt make much difference. i now get ##5r - 2 = 2r^3 ## Cant find any mistakes but there must be some.
 
##\frac{a + 2d + 12}{a + d} = r^2 ## is not correct.
 
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yeah, that's it. Just r there. Now its correct ##5r - 2 = 2r^2 ##
 

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