Arrange bulbs in descending order of brightness

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The discussion revolves around arranging bulbs in descending order of brightness based on their resistances in a circuit involving series and parallel configurations. The original poster explores the relationship between resistance and power dissipation to determine brightness without relying solely on numerical values.

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  • The original poster attempts to reason through the problem by comparing resistances and power dissipation in different circuit configurations. Some participants question whether a logical approach can replace numerical assignments for resistors. Others raise specific comparisons of current and voltage across different bulbs to deduce brightness.

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The discussion is active, with participants engaging in reasoning about the relationships between resistance, current, and brightness. Some guidance has been offered regarding logical reasoning in circuit analysis, but no consensus on a definitive order of brightness has been reached.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework problem, which may limit the information available for analysis. There is an emphasis on exploring assumptions about the circuit's configuration and the behavior of current and voltage across the components.

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Sorry for the messy image .

I have got the right answer by assuming certain values of the resistors . But I would like to know whether this question can be done logically without assigning numerical values to the resistors .

Initially when S2 is open and S1 is on position 2 , all the resistors are in series .Same current flows through them . The one with higher resistance will have higher power dissipated and will flow brighter .From this I concluded R2>R1>(R3=R4) .

Now S2 is closed and S1 is on position 1.This makes R2 in parallel with R1 .

Now I assigned some numbers to the resistors such that R2>R1>(R3=R4) and checked the respective i2R values .Then compared it with their initial i2R values .

Could someone suggest an alternative/faster approachwhuch requires lesser calculation to solve this problem .

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Jahnavi said:
1.This makes R2 in parallel with R1**R3 .
Jahnavi said:
Now I assigned some numbers to the resistors such that R2>R1>(R3=R4) and checked the respective i2R values .Then compared it with their initial i2R values .
In the new circuit, current is same for two bulbs (B1 and B4).
Which is brighter?

B3 will receive less current than B4 and R3=R4.
Which is brighter?

Voltage across B2 and B3 is same, but R2>R3.
Which is brighter?

What is the descending order then?
 
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Wow ! Impressive reasoning :approve:

Exactly what I was looking for :smile: .

You have taught me a very nice way to think in such type of problems .

:dademyday:

Thanks a lot !
 
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Jahnavi said:
Wow ! Impressive reasoning :approve:

Exactly what I was looking for :smile: .

You have taught me a very nice way to think in such type of problems .

:dademyday:

Thanks a lot !
Thanks for giving me a new logic .you made my day
 

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