Find the equivalent resistance (Req) of the simple circuit.

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The problem involves finding the equivalent resistance between two points in a circuit containing multiple resistors arranged in both series and parallel configurations. The discussion centers around the interpretation of the circuit's layout and the impact of a short circuit on the equivalent resistance calculation.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the arrangement of resistors, particularly the effect of a short circuit on the 10 ohm resistor and the justification for ignoring it in calculations. There is also a focus on the equivalent resistance of the remaining resistors in series and parallel.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning each other's reasoning and clarifying steps in the calculation process. Some guidance has been provided regarding the treatment of the short circuit and the equivalent resistance of the resistors involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating through potential misunderstandings about the circuit's configuration and the implications of short circuits on resistance calculations. There is acknowledgment of errors in reasoning, but no consensus has been reached on the final equivalent resistance value.

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Homework Statement



What is the equivalent resistance between points a and b in the Figure shown.
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Homework Equations



Equivalent of two resistors (e.g R1 and R2)= R1*R2/(R1+R2)
Equivalent of two resistors (e.g R3 and R4) = R3+R4

The Attempt at a Solution



Step 1: 6, 12 and 4 ohm resistors are in parallel, which results to 2 ohms.
Step 2: the 2 ohm resistor and the 3 ohm resistor are in series, which results to 4 ohm.
Step 3: Now we have the following circuit.
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This was slightly confusing. Since there is a short circuit parallel to the 10 ohm resistors, current will flow from point a through the 4 ohm resistor then through the 3 ohm resistor. The current will bypass the 10 ohm resistor and hence it will be ignored in the equivalent resistance calculation. 4 ohm in series with 3 ohm resistor = 7 ohms.

I know the answer is correct (7 ohm) but I would like to confirm my concept regarding the short circuit wire is correct.
 
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I think your Step 2 has a slight error in its justification.
Yes, the 10 ohm resistor can be ignored... since it is shorted... that is to say, the voltage drop across that 10 ohm resistor is zero.

[edit:
You can also say that the 10 ohm is in parallel with the 0 ohm...
so R_eq for that parallel combination is (10)(0)/(10+0)=0 ohms.]
 
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robphy said:
I think your Step 2 has a slight error in its justification.
Yes, the 10 ohm resistor can be ignored... since it is shorted... that is to say, the voltage drop across that 10 ohm resistor is zero.
The 6, 12 and 4 ohm resistors are in parallel resulting in 2 ohms. As a result, this is in series with the 2 ohm resistors. I can't seem to find where the error is?
 
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sugz said:
Step 2: the 2 ohm resistor and the 3 ohm resistor are in series, which results to 4 ohm.

It's a 2-ohm in series with the equivalent-2-ohm, yielding 4-ohms.
 
robphy said:
You wroteIt's a 2-ohm in series with the equivalent-2-ohm, yielding 4-ohms.
Sorry about that. I must have made a mistake with that. Thanks for pointing that out!
 

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