Arrival time from two US transducers

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The discussion revolves around calculating the difference in arrival time of ultrasound pulses emitted from two transducers, T1 and T2, as they travel through liver tissue. The problem involves understanding sound speed in different media and the effects of refraction.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate arrival times using average sound speeds and questions the accuracy of their results compared to an answer sheet. Some participants suggest considering Snell's law and the implications of refraction, while others affirm the original poster's method of finding equivalent sound speed.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the assumptions made about reflection and refraction, but no consensus has been reached on the correctness of the original poster's calculations.

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Participants note that the problem does not require considering reflection, and there is uncertainty about the impact of refraction on the results.

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Hi,

Please refer to the attached image.

T1 and T2 are ultrasound transducers. The focal point of the transducers is 2cm into the liver tissue.

Q) A pulse is emitted from both transducers at the same time. Calculate the difference in arrival time at the focal point.


I seem to be getting the wrong answer. This is what I'm doing:

The arrival time from T2 is: [tex]t_{T2} = 1cm/1450 + 2cm/1540 = 19.9us[/tex]

From this we can calculate an equivalent average speed across both tissue:
[tex]c_{equiv} = 3cm/19.9us = 1508.8m/s[/tex]

Using this we'll calculate the arrival time for T1
[tex]t_{T1} = \sqrt{(9.6mm)^2 + (3cm)^2}/c_{equiv} = 20.9us[/tex]

Thus the difference in arrival time is [tex]1us[/tex]
However the answer sheet indicates [tex]0.4us[/tex]

Thanks for your input.
 

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Hint: Snell's law

EDIT: On reflection (pun!) I can see that refraction of the sound wave at the fat/liver interface is not going to make a great deal of difference in the result... So perhaps your answer is correct and the given answer is not.
 
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Hi,

Thanks. We aren't expected to consider to reflection in this question.

So my approach of finding the equivalent sound speed is right?
 
enc08 said:
Hi,

Thanks. We aren't expected to consider to reflection in this question.

So my approach of finding the equivalent sound speed is right?

Sure. The method works because, not considering refraction, the ratio of the times spent in each media is the same for both paths.

If refraction was taken into account and resulted in a different ratio, then this would not be the case.
 
Thanks.
 

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