[ASK] Find the volume of Pyramid in a Cube

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The discussion revolves around calculating the volume of a pyramid formed within a cube, specifically pyramid D.IJK, where points I, K, and J divide the edges of the cube into equal lengths. The problem involves geometric reasoning and calculations related to the dimensions of the pyramid and its base area.

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  • One participant expresses uncertainty about determining the height of the pyramid, suggesting it must be less than 4√3 cm.
  • Another participant provides a vector-based formula for the volume of the pyramid, calculating a volume of 4 cc.
  • A participant corrects a previous statement regarding the points dividing the edges, clarifying a typo and asks for a method to solve the problem without vectors, suitable for 8th graders.
  • One participant discusses the relationship between the height of the pyramid and the centroid of the base triangle, suggesting the use of the Pythagorean theorem to find necessary dimensions.
  • Another participant attempts to calculate the height of the pyramid and the base area, arriving at a volume of \(\frac{20}{3}\) cc, but expresses uncertainty about the final result.
  • A later reply simply acknowledges the help received.

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The discussion contains multiple approaches to the problem, with some participants favoring vector methods while others prefer geometric reasoning. There is no consensus on the final volume calculation, as different methods yield different results.

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Participants rely on various assumptions regarding geometric properties and relationships, and there are unresolved steps in the calculations presented. The discussion also highlights the challenge of adapting the problem for a younger audience with limited mathematical tools.

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Given a cube ABCD.EFGH whose side length is 4 cm. If the point I, K, and J is dividing EF, FG, and BG to two equal lengths respectively, determine the volume of pyramid D.IJK!

I think I can work out the pyramid's base area by deriving for the formula of equilateral triangle area. What I can't is determine the pyramid's height. All I knew is that is must be less than 4√3 cm. Anyone willing to help me?
 
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$V = \dfrac{\vec{ID} \cdot (\vec{IK} \times \vec{IJ})}{6}$

$V = \dfrac{(-2,4,-4) \cdot (-4,4,0)}{6} = \dfrac{8 + 16 + 0}{6} = 4$
 

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Monoxdifly said:
Given a cube ABCD.EFGH whose side length is 4 cm. If the point I, K, and J is dividing EF, FG, and BG to two equal lengths respectively, determine the volume of pyramid D.IJK!

I am sorry, the bold part was supposed to be BF. Must've been a typo. Also, how to do it without vectors? This is supposed to be for 8 graders, we can only use Pythagorean theorem at most.
 
Length of diagonal DF = height of pyramid IJKF + height of pyramid IJKD

Height of both pyramids passes through the centroid of equilateral triangle IJK ... recall the ratio of the distance from vertex to centroid : centroid to opposite side is 2:1.
Median length of equilateral triangle IJK should be no problem to determine.

With that information and Pythagoras, you should be able to find the height of pyramid IJKF ... subtract that value from the length of diagonal DF and you have the height of pyramid IJKD.
 
Let me try:
DJ =$$\sqrt{BD^2+BJ^2}$$=$$\sqrt{(4\sqrt2)^2+2^2}$$=$$\sqrt{16(2)+4}$$=$$\sqrt{32+4}$$=$$\sqrt{36}$$= 6 cm
Height of triangle IJK =$$\sqrt{(2\sqrt2)^2-(\frac12\times2\sqrt2)^2}$$=$$\sqrt{4(2)-(\sqrt2)^2}$$=$$\sqrt{8-2}$$=$$\sqrt6cm$$
Height of pyramid D.IJK =$$\sqrt{DJ^2-(\frac23\times\sqrt6)^2}$$=$$\sqrt{6^2-\frac49(6)}$$=$$\sqrt{36-\frac43(2)}$$=$$\sqrt{\frac{108}{3}-\frac83}$$=$$\sqrt{\frac{100}{3}}$$=$$10\sqrt{\frac13}cm?$$
Because I got $$2\sqrt3cm^2$$ as the base area, so the volume is$$\frac13\times2\sqrt3\times10\sqrt{\frac13}$$=$$\frac{20}{3}$$cc?
 
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Okay, thanks for your help.
 

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