Asteroid falling to earth, what will be minimum speed and KE on planet?

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The problem involves an asteroid falling to Earth and seeks to determine its minimum speed upon impact and the kinetic energy it would impart. The context is rooted in gravitational physics, specifically the inverse square law of gravitation and energy considerations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of gravitational force equations and potential energy concepts, with some suggesting the integration of work done against gravity. Questions arise regarding the appropriateness of using certain formulas and constants based on the participants' current curriculum.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, with participants providing guidance on the use of integrals and gravitational force equations. Some participants are clarifying the relationship between different gravitational formulas and their relevance to the problem at hand.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the constraint of not using the gravitational constant due to its absence in their current studies, which may influence the approach taken to solve the problem.

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Homework Statement


The gravitational pull of the Earth on an object is inversely proportional to the square of the distance of the object from the center of the earth. At the Earth's surface this force is equal to the object's normal weight mg, where g = 9.8m/s^2, and at large distances, the force is zero. If a 20,000-kg asteroid falls to Earth from a very great distance away, what will be its minimum speed as it strikes the Earth's surface, and how much kinetic energy will it impart to our planet? You can ignore the effects of the Earth's atmosphere


Homework Equations


K=(1/2)(mv2)
g=~1/r^2, where r is the distance from the center of Earth to the asteroid
W=∫Fxdx

The Attempt at a Solution


I've seen a solution where the equation for potential energy (U) is involved, but it seems I'm supposed to solve this using calculus. I'm not quite sure where to start. I'm trying to use the integral of the work formula, but I'm not sure how to relate it to this problem where the gravity is involved. Thank you.
 
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I'm glad to see you doing this, Overdrive. One should do it from basics until it gets boring, then use those more powerful formulas.

W=∫Fr*dr should do the trick. Your F will just be the big G formula for gravitational force. Show your work here if you want a check or help!
 
Delphi51 said:
I'm glad to see you doing this, Overdrive. One should do it from basics until it gets boring, then use those more powerful formulas.

W=∫Fr*dr should do the trick. Your F will just be the big G formula for gravitational force. Show your work here if you want a check or help!

Thank you for the reply. By "big G formula", are you referring to the Gm1m2/r^2 formula? If so, is there a way to do it without the big G? I don't think I'm supposed to use the gravitational constant, because that is chapters away from where we are right now in our textbook (ch13 vs ch6).
 
Yes, that is the formula I meant.
The gravitational pull of the Earth on an object is inversely proportional to the square of the distance of the object from the center of the earth. At the Earth's surface this force is equal to the object's normal weight mg, where g = 9.8m/s^2
Could this be suggesting you derive that formula?
F proportional to 1/r² means F = k/r²
At the surface of the Earth this is mg = k/R² where R is the radius of Earth, so k = mgR²
and so F = k*r² becomes F = (mgR²)/r²
(Hopefully this mgR² has the same value as G*m*M.)
It does neatly avoid using G.
 
Thank you! I will use that and find the integral from infinity to the surface of the earth, since it says "at large distances, the force is 0", so the infinity would cancel out and leave the KE when it hits the surface.. I hope that's correct.
 
Sounds good!
 

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