At what points on this curve is the tangent line horizontal?

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The discussion revolves around determining the points on the curve defined by the equation y = (x^2)/(2x+5) where the tangent line is horizontal. Participants are exploring the conditions under which the derivative equals zero, indicating a horizontal tangent.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the derivative using the quotient rule and the condition for horizontal tangents. There is confusion regarding the interpretation of the resulting equation 2x^2 + 10x = 0 and the implications of the critical number x = -5. Questions arise about the validity of calculator results and the method of finding other critical points.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants attempting to clarify the calculations and assumptions made. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to find both solutions to the equation, but there is no consensus on the correctness of the identified critical points or the calculator's output.

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There is mention of potential misunderstandings related to calculator usage and the interpretation of critical numbers. Participants are also questioning the accuracy of their results and the function being analyzed.

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Homework Statement


At what points on the curve y = (x^2)/(2x+5) is the tangent line horizontal?

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Quotient rule


The Attempt at a Solution


I figured out the derivative which is
2x(2x+5) - 2x^2
-----------------
(2x+5)^2

I also know that for the equation of the tangent to be horizontal, it needs to have a slope of 0, so y' = 0

Therefore I tried to do 2x(2x+5) - 2x^2 = 0, and I got 2x^2 + 10x = 0 which means that x must be -5. However when I put it into the calculator, it doesn't agree with me, so I went wrong somewhere.

Thanks in advance!
 
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I have no idea what you mean by "put it into the calculator". However, "2x^2+ 10x= 0" does NOT mean "that x must be -5". How did you get that?
 
I got a ti84, and i can draw a tangent line and it'll tell me the formula, so when I drew a tangent line through -5, the line was not horizontal completely. If you plug in -5 into 2x^2 + 10x= 0, it works out, but when you plug it back into the first one you don't get 0.
 
There are two critical numbers; x = -5 is one of them.

If you substitute x = -5 into y = x2/(2x + 5), you'll get the y value at one of the points where the tangent is horizontal.
 
Mark44 said:
There are two critical numbers; x = -5 is one of them.

If you substitute x = -5 into y = x2/(2x + 5), you'll get the y value at one of the points where the tangent is horizontal.

But the calculator disagrees with the fact that x = -5 is one of them, and also how can I find the other point?
 
I have no idea what you're entering into the calculator, so I can't say that its objections are valid.

To find the other critical number, find both solutions of 2x2 + 10x = 0.

I hope you aren't doing this:

2x2 = - 10x

and then dividing both sides by 2x.
 

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