Atomic Physics Book: Good Intro to Understand Physical Concepts

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around recommendations for introductory books on atomic physics that provide a clear physical understanding of the subject. Participants explore various texts related to atomic and nuclear physics, as well as related fields like solid state and condensed matter physics.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants seek a book that offers a good physical picture of atomic physics, distinguishing between atomic (electron interactions) and nuclear (nucleus-related phenomena) physics.
  • One participant suggests "Atomic Physics" by Christopher J. Foot for atomic physics and "Introductory Nuclear Physics" by Kenneth S. Krane for nuclear physics.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the availability of modern books that provide a physical picture of atomic physics, suggesting that no such book has been published since 1926.
  • Additional recommendations include "Introduction to Solid State Physics" by Charles Kittel and "Condensed Matter Physics" by Michael P. Marder, highlighting their relevance to atomic physics.
  • Max Born's "Atomic Physics" is recommended for its balance of detail and accessibility, with some participants noting its effectiveness in conveying phenomena without overwhelming mathematical rigor.
  • Bransden and Joachain's "Physics of Atoms and Molecules" is mentioned as a classic text, with differing opinions on its suitability compared to Born's work.
  • There is a suggestion that Bransden's book may serve as a follow-up to Born's, as it contains numerous examples but is more encyclopedic in nature.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the best introductory texts, with no clear consensus on a single recommended book. There are differing views on the adequacy of modern texts in conveying physical concepts, and participants propose various titles based on their perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions touch on the mathematical prerequisites and the depth of physical insight provided by different texts, indicating a potential limitation in the accessibility of certain recommendations for readers without a strong mathematical background.

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What is a good intro to atomic physics book that gives a good physical picture of what's going on.
 
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cragar said:
What is a good intro to atomic physics book that gives a good physical picture of what's going on.
Atomic (what happens primarily with the electrons or between atoms) or nuclear (what happens with the nucleus, e.g., radioactivity)?

If the former, then try Atomic Physics (Oxford Master Series in Atomic, Optical and Laser Physics) [Paperback] by Christopher J. Foot
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0198506961/?tag=pfamazon01-20

If the latter, then Introductory Nuclear Physics [Hardcover] by Kenneth S. Krane
https://www.amazon.com/dp/047180553X/?tag=pfamazon01-20

There are several other texts.

Search here for Nuclear Physics
 
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cragar said:
What is a good intro to atomic physics book that gives a good physical picture of what's going on.
I don't think there's a book on atomic physics that gives any physical picture of what's going on written since 1926.
 
Thank you very much Astronuc. I was also looking for an atomic physics book (not nuclear yet).
 
If one is actually interested in Atomic physics, which is primarily concerned with the atomic electrons, more so than the physics within the nucleus, then perhaps in addition to searching for 'Atomic Physics', one should consider 'Solid State Physics' or 'Condensed Matter Physics'.

Introduction to Solid State Physics [Hardcover] by Charles Kittel (1995, 2005)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0471111813/?tag=pfamazon01-20
http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-EHEP000803.html (2005)

See also some course notes - http://www.physics.udel.edu/~bnikolic/teaching/phys624/lectures.html (unrelated to text)


Condensed Matter Physics [Hardcover] by Michael P. Marder
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0470617985/?tag=pfamazon01-20
http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/Wiley...5,descCd-tableOfContents.html?filter=TEXTBOOK
http://140.110.201.35/djhuang/lectures_2009.html (uses text as reference)

See also - http://web.mit.edu/redingtn/www/netadv/biblio2.html
 
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thanks for your posts
 
The common theme and requirement for all that stuff is mathematics and quantum mechanics. The best introduction to quantum physics of which I am aware is Max Born's, "Atomic Physics": It doesn't get too much into the mathematics (although it has quite a lot), and gets into a lot of detail about the actual phenomena, which gives a more concrete feel for what is going on.
Any area of atomic/nuclear/elementary-particle physics will rely on this material, so it's a good start.
 
I second the reccomendation on Max Born. The book he wrote is very good and not too strict with the mathematical prerequisites. The appendices make up for the sometimes lack of rigor/proofs.
 
The classic book is Bransden and Joachain, Physics of Atoms and Molecules.
 
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Bransden should go after Born, because Born has insights and elementary examples, while Bransden has a lot of examples, more like an encyclopedia. If only one book is an option, then either should do it.
 

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