"Atomic Spectra and Atomic Structure" by Gerhard Herzberg

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The discussion revolves around the book "Atomic Spectra and Atomic Structure" by Gerhard Herzberg, focusing on its clarity, suitability as a supplementary resource, prerequisites for understanding, and its mathematical rigor. Participants explore its relevance to chemistry and its status as a Dover publication.

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  • Meta-discussion

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the clarity and effectiveness of the book as a primary resource, seeking opinions on its quality as supplementary material.
  • Another participant suggests that standard textbooks are generally more reliable for learning and that any book can serve as a supplement, but its suitability depends on the reader's needs.
  • Some participants note that the book is not intended for university-level teaching and is more suited for physicists, with limited application to chemistry.
  • There is a mention of the book's age (80 years) and a suggestion that more current resources might be preferable.
  • Participants discuss the inability to delete threads after posting and the potential for the thread to serve as a cautionary example for others seeking the "perfect" book.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the book's suitability and effectiveness, with no consensus on whether it is a good supplementary resource or if standard textbooks are preferable. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the book's overall value.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the book's age and its focus, which may not align with current educational standards or the needs of all readers. The discussion also reflects on the challenges of selecting appropriate resources for learning.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in atomic spectra, atomic structure, or those evaluating supplementary materials for physics and chemistry studies may find this discussion relevant.

SummeryWinter
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I just wanted to know if this book has clear exposition, if it's any good and what are the prerequisites for it. Also, I don't think it's can be a primary resource so I just wanna know how good it really is in terms of supplementary material and just in general as a dover book. Also, I wanna know if it's chemistry-centric and how mathematically rigorous it actually is.
 
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Ah yes, "I just need to find the perfect book". This strategy is often tried, but is seldom successful.

If you want to learn, use standard textbooks. There's a reason they are standards. "Can I use this as a supplement?" Of course. You can use any book as a supplement. Is it suited for what you want and where you are? How do we know?

Yes, the Dover books are cheap. We have a member elsewhere at PF who has a penchant for buying the near-cheapest option, only to discover it is ill-suited for what he wants, and that somehow this is our responsibility. A Dover book may be exactly what you want, and it may be irrelevant.

It's definitely not the standard treatment. I could spend hours of my time writing an in-depth review that might save you $7. Seems like a poor use of my time.
 
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Users are more likely to find solved problems, discussion on topics, from well-trod textbooks.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
Ah yes, "I just need to find the perfect book". This strategy is often tried, but is seldom successful.

If you want to learn, use standard textbooks. There's a reason they are standards. "Can I use this as a supplement?" Of course. You can use any book as a supplement. Is it suited for what you want and where you are? How do we know?

Yes, the Dover books are cheap. We have a member elsewhere at PF who has a penchant for buying the near-cheapest option, only to discover it is ill-suited for what he wants, and that somehow this is our responsibility. A Dover book may be exactly what you want, and it may be irrelevant.

It's definitely not the standard treatment. I could spend hours of my time writing an in-depth review that might save you $7. Seems like a poor use of my time.
I agree with you and realised this the second I posted this thread but I just couldn't find the delete button and I even searched for a thread on PF on how to delete a thread but to my surprise there's no such thing and even if there is, I don't know how, if you know vanadium, you can tell me and I'll delete this thread otherwise it could be used as a warning to other people who might try the strategy of choosing the "perfect" book, something I USED to do before I posted this thread😅😅


Anyways, thanks vanadium...
 
For the future readers: Herzberg, G. - Atomic Spectra and Atomic Structure (2nd Ed., 1944, Dover Publications) is a small-sizes monograph (last page before bibliography and index is 234), it's not a textbook aimed at teaching university students. Aimed at (future or current) phyicists, it touches less than briefly upon the applications of atomic structure to chemistry. The fact that it's 80 years old right now should tell one that perhaps a more up-to-date book, be it a textbook for students, or a monograph.

For the OP, you cannot delete your own topic, even after your first message (i.e. in the absence of replies). You can at least report your own starting post and ask a moderator to delete the subject, if you consider you have opened it erroneously. The moderator has the liberty to not comply to your request and leave the topic open.
 
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dextercioby said:
For the future readers: Herzberg, G. - Atomic Spectra and Atomic Structure (2nd Ed., 1944, Dover Publications) is a small-sizes monograph (last page before bibliography and index is 234), it's not a textbook aimed at teaching university students. Aimed at (future or current) phyicists, it touches less than briefly upon the applications of atomic structure to chemistry. The fact that it's 80 years old right now should tell one that perhaps a more up-to-date book, be it a textbook for students, or a monograph.

For the OP, you cannot delete your own topic, even after your first message (i.e. in the absence of replies). You can at least report your own starting post and ask a moderator to delete the subject, if you consider you have opened it erroneously. The moderator has the liberty to not comply to your request and leave the topic open.
Got it but I think I'll just let it serve as a warning to people who want the "perfect" book...
 

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