Audio recordings of radio traffic

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the audio quality of radio traffic recordings from significant incidents, exploring potential reasons for difficulties in understanding these recordings. Participants examine factors related to recording systems, transmission protocols, and the nature of radio communication during emergencies.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the beginning of sentences being cut off may be due to speakers starting to talk before pressing the transmit button, possibly due to urgency.
  • One participant references a protocol indicating a 2 to 3 second delay after pressing the PTT button, which is necessary for the transmitter to activate.
  • Another participant mentions "squelch" as a relevant factor in radio communication.
  • It is noted that trunked radio systems require a connection confirmation (a beep) before communication can occur, which may be overlooked in emergencies.
  • Some participants argue that the sound quality issues are likely due to the recording system rather than the original communication, as speakers seem to understand each other well in real-time.
  • There is speculation about the impact of distance on signal strength and recording quality, with suggestions that degradation may occur due to acquisition delays in dispatch recordings.
  • A participant raises a question about how signal strength affects the type of degradation seen in recordings, particularly regarding digital communication and packet transmission.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the causes of audio degradation in radio traffic recordings, and the discussion remains unresolved with no consensus reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge potential limitations related to the assumptions about recording systems, signal strength, and the nature of radio communication, but do not resolve these issues.

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Audio recordings of radio traffic from famous incidents (e.g. 9/11, various shootings) are difficult to understand - at least those I find on YouTube are. Is there something about the way radio traffic is recorded that degrades it? Often the beginning of a sentence is cut off. Could this be a result of the delay in a recording device that tries to begin recording only after it detects sounds?
 
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See "Squelch."
 
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Stephen Tashi said:
Often the beginning of a sentence is cut off.
Many public service radio systems are "trunked", and that means that the transmitter and relay system need to agree on the TX/RX frequencies before information can be transferred. When you push the PTT button on a trunked radio, you need to wait for the "beep" (usually takes a second or two) to let you know that your connection is established. In the heat of the moment in an emergency, it's easy to forget to wait for the beep...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trunked_radio_system
 
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The reason that I think the sound quality is due to the recording system and not the original sound is that in most recordings of radio traffic the people speaking seem to have no problem understanding each other. For example 3:32 to 3:42 in
 
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The reason that I think the sound quality is due to the recording system and not the original sound is that in most recordings of radio traffic the people speaking seem to have no problem understanding each other.
The means by which these folks are talking to each other is local whereas the recording is presumably done at dispatch some further distance away. That would account for some of the degradation (particularly regarding acquisition delay) for the dispatch recording because of less signal strength. .I'm just guessing.
 
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The means by which these folks are talking to each other is local whereas the recording is presumably done at dispatch some further distance away. That would account for some of the degradation (particularly regarding acquisition delay) for the dispatch recording because of less signal strength. .I'm just guessing.

I'll guess that your are correct. But what is it about signal strength that results in the type of degradation where only parts of the transmission are inaudible? - something to do with digital communication and how things are transmitted in discrete packets? (I suppose there are recordings of pre-digital radio traffic, but I haven't encountered any in my recent YouTube browsing.)
 

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