Automatic Tire Chains - Onspot's Efficient Idea

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The discussion revolves around the concept of automatic tire chains, specifically the system developed by a company called Onspot. Participants explore the efficiency, practicality, and potential issues related to the use of these chains in winter driving conditions, sharing personal experiences and concerns about their functionality and reliability.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express curiosity about the efficiency of the automatic tire chains and their operational mechanics.
  • Concerns are raised regarding traction, potential malfunctions, and the impact of road conditions such as accumulated salt and mud.
  • Participants share personal anecdotes about winter driving challenges in hilly areas, emphasizing the risks associated with icy conditions.
  • There is speculation about how the chains are retracted and whether they can effectively operate under various conditions, including packed snow.
  • Some participants suggest that the concept of automatic tire chains is not new and question why it hasn't gained widespread acceptance.
  • One participant mentions the self-cleaning feature of chains used on school buses in Alaska, highlighting their practicality compared to traditional chains.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the effectiveness and reliability of automatic tire chains. Multiple competing views and concerns remain regarding their practicality in real-world conditions.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include uncertainty about the operational details of the automatic tire chains, the specific conditions under which they may fail, and the varying experiences of participants with winter driving in different geographical locations.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals involved in winter driving, automotive engineering, or those considering the use of automatic tire chains for enhanced traction in snowy conditions.

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Interesting idea. I wonder how efficient it is. It's from a company called Onspot.

 
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Wow, that's really weird. I'm not sure of the traction you'd get or what happens if a chain gets caught on something solid or when accumulated road salt and mud gum up the mechanism.
 
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I'm with jedishrfu. I'd be more worried about something going wrong when I was in icy conditions than calmed by having instant chains.

Then again, didn't Speed Racer have something like this? Always worked for him.
 
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Although if you are just trying to make it up the last 100 meters before the crest on rt 13 out of Ithaca it might be very nice to have that button to push.
 
Interesting concept. I do wonder though how the chains are retrieved from under the tire so they can retract. The video was careful not to show that operation.
 
I remember the hills of Troy NY going to RPI and how treacherous they were. However having been to Cornell, Ithaca NY hills were even worse, I can’t even imagine walking on them in winter let alone driving on them With or without chains.

when I got my first jeep I felt invincible weather wise until while in four wheel drive taking a turn on a slippery piece of roadway and you realize nothing will stop your jeep except for time And you hope you have enough of it before you collide with something.
 
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I don't see that working if you have an accumulation that is packed at all.

I'd bet it lasts a week at most if you put it to real use.

I also wonder about the wear and tear on the tires and on the roads if the ice is thin or spotty.
 
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I don't think this is new. I think it has been around for many decades; long before we had online videos. But if that is true, then it failed to gain widespread acceptance over those decades.
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Interesting concept. I do wonder though how the chains are retrieved from under the tire so they can retract. The video was careful not to show that operation.
My guess is that they retrieve the chains while still rolling. Once the truck stops, it would be difficult.

@jedishrfu : more upstate NY lore. As a youth in Syracuse, I learned how to handle slick steep hills with a stop sign at the bottom. I learned to bounce (billiard style) off the snow banks, both left and right, to control my speed. The cars of that era were built with strong thick steel and they could do that without damage. But it was risky, because there might be fire hydrants hidden under the snow.
 
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@anorlunda I grew up in upstate NY too and have experienced many of those treacherous hills. The hills around Cornell are within residential areas with steep grades endng in a stop at a busy intersection and bumping a snowbank if it's even there might careen someone into a house.

Some hills in Texas are even more treacherous especially when we get hit with an ice storm (once every five years or so) due to their extreme incline.

Recently on a trip to the Great Smokies, we stayed at an AirBnB that was on a twisty turny mountain road. I could only imagine how folks traversed that in bad weather. I was truly frightened by its grade, its narrowness, its sharp turns, and the fact that one side had a dropoff for a shoulder.
 
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I live in Fairbanks, Alaska where the side roads remain iced up the entire winter My children rode a bus to school for the twelve years they attended school. The buses were, and still are, equipped with the automatic chains to navigate the hilly residential areas.

The chains are self cleaning from impact and only get extended while the bus is in motion. Replacing lengths of worn chain is inexpensive and simple. The expense is in the original installation and are not cost effective unless used often.

Regular chains must be put on, labor intensive, and then when the hill has been cleared the bus has to stop again to remove the chains, labor intensive. Time is money.
 
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I live in Fairbanks, Alaska

That sure makes you the expert on winter driving!
I hear summer will be on a weekend this year.
 
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