Calculating rolling resistance force and coefficient

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the rolling resistance force and coefficient for different brands of tires, focusing on efficiency at low speeds. Participants explore experimental methods for measurement rather than theoretical approaches.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks guidance on how to compare tire rolling resistance using available data such as footprint, weight, and speed.
  • Another participant suggests that theoretical methods are insufficient and emphasizes the need for experimental determination of rolling resistance.
  • A participant inquires about specific experimental methods, mentioning the measurement of hysteresis and concerns about safety in conducting such experiments.
  • It is noted that rolling resistance can be measured through a coastdown test, which requires a vehicle with four tires installed, and that accurate measurement necessitates real road conditions while loaded.
  • Alternative estimation methods for rolling resistance are mentioned, but the consensus is that published properties do not provide a reliable calculation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that experimental methods are necessary for measuring rolling resistance, but there is no consensus on the specific methods or approaches to be used.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on real-world testing conditions and the challenges associated with safely conducting experiments to measure rolling resistance.

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I am comparing three brands of tires to see which one provides the lowest rolling resistance and thus give the best efficiency at low speeds. I have the information of the tires such as footprint, weight (of the tire and load), speed.

How would i go about doing this ? am really stumped
thanks
 
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Hello boba, :welcome:

There's no theory that can help you here. You'll need to determine this experimentally.
 
BvU said:
Hello boba, :welcome:

There's no theory that can help you here. You'll need to determine this experimentally.

Hey BvU thanks for the reply, What kind of experiment would you recommend? the size of the tire and load (0.5tone tire and 10 tonne load).

I was thinking measuring the hysteresis and thus getting the loss due to rolling, but i couldn't think of a safe was of doing it.

thanks
 
Rolling resistance of different tires, and the effect of tire pressure on rolling resistance, is a regular topic of discussion at www.ecomodder.com/forum. There is also information at: https://www.tirerack.com/landing/fuel_efficiency.jsp.

You can measure rolling resistance by a coastdown test, but that requires four tires installed on a car. There are other ways to estimate rolling resistance, but the only way to accurately measure it is on a real road while loaded. That pretty much requires a coastdown test. There is no good way to calculate it from published properties.
 
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