Available energy in particle collision derivation

Join the discussion
Ask a follow-up here, or get your own question answered by working scientists, mathematicians and engineers — people, not an autocomplete.
Real named experts · corrections over time · the nuance an AI answer skips
1 reply · 4K views
Piyu
Messages
45
Reaction score
0
Hello, I am trying to derive the formula given in by
efb9e576092eb4d730507b816e60f09e.png
.

I understand we need to move it to the center of momentum frame to solve. Using the relativistic energy equations. I find that :

E = E1 + E2
E1 = sqrt((Mc)2+(pc)2)
E2 = sqrt((mc)2+(pc)2)

where both have equal magnitudes momentum p since its the center of momentum frame.

However, this is where i get stuck. no matter how i add them up i can't seem to get rid of the square root signs and solve the equation.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Hi,

I'm assuming you got the equation from Wikipedia - it's correct, however, Wikipedia is rather vague on where they actually got the equation from.

The starting equation you are looking for is,
[tex]E_a^2 = \left(\sum_{i=1}^n E_i \right)^2 - \left(\sum_{i=1}^n p_i c \right)^2[/tex]
where the sums are over each particle included in the system. In your case, these would be the moving particle and the stationary particle. I must admit I don't completely understand the equation (we mentioned it in the particle physics course), but I guess Wikipedia is correct about the net momentum not being able to convert the whole kinetic energy into mass (represented as the subtraction in the equation). The squares are probably there, just to ensure that the available energy is constant before and after the collision.

E = E1 + E2
E1 = sqrt((Mc)2+(pc)2)
E2 = sqrt((mc)2+(pc)2)
Also be sure to take the correct equation for energy (you are missing a square on [itex]c[/itex] at [itex](m c)^2[/itex]).

Hope this has been helpful.