Average of Log of a Function: Bounded by 1 and Convex

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The discussion centers on the average behavior of the logarithm of a convex function, specifically under the conditions where the function is bounded below by 1. The user seeks to understand the relationship between the average of the function, defined as F = \frac{1}{(b-a)} \int_a^b f(x) dx, and the average of its logarithm, \frac{1}{(b-a)} \int_a^b \log(f(x)) dx. The key insight is that as (b-a) approaches zero, the average of the function approaches its value at the point a, leading to the conclusion that if the function's asymptotic behavior satisfies certain conditions, the logarithm of the average can be approximated by the average of the logarithm, up to a constant term.

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Hello,

I am interested in the average behaviour of the log of a function.

I know the average of the function over the range of interest: [tex]F = \frac{1}{(b-a)} \int_a^b f(x) dx.[/tex]

I also know that [tex]f(x)[/tex] is convex and bounded from below by [tex]1.[/tex]

I want to know the average [tex]\frac{1}{(b-a)} \int_a^b \log( f(x) ) dx.[/tex]

In particular, under what circumstances this would be equal to the log of the average, [tex]\log(F)[/tex], up to a constant term, if [tex]F = \frac{1}{(b-a)}[/tex] and [tex](b-a)[/tex] tends to zero.

Many thanks for any help.
 
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My first observation is [itex]\lim_{b\rightarrow a}\int_a^b f(x) dx/{(b-a)} = f(a).[/itex]

Second, I am not sure how the numerator of F remains constant ([itex]\int_a^b f(x) dx[/itex] = 1) when b--->a. I expect [itex]\lim_{b\rightarrow a}\int_a^b f(x) dx[/itex] = 0. Can you explain?
 
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Ah, sorry - I should have explicitly pointed out that [tex]f(x)=f(b-a,x).[/tex]

In fact, what I'm looking at is the average slope of a function [tex]g(x),[/tex] which has range [tex][0,1][/tex] and domain [tex][a,b].[/tex]

Thus [tex]f(x)=\frac{dg(x)}{dx}[/tex] and its integral over the domain must give [tex]1.[/tex]

The asymptotic properties must depend on the behaviour of [tex]f(x)[/tex] I suppose, e.g. if [tex]\limsup_{(b-a)\to 0}f(b)=K f(a)[/tex] for a constant [tex]K,[/tex] then what I ask for holds.

But what if more generally, as I ask, all I know is that [tex]f(x)\geq 1[/tex] and is convex? What about other classes of function?

Thanks for the response!
 

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