Average potential and kinetic energies for H ground state

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The discussion focuses on calculating the average potential and kinetic energies for the electron in the ground state of hydrogen. The key equations utilized include the kinetic energy formula KE = E - , where E = (-KZ^2e^2)/(2a0) and U(r) = -KZe^2/r. Participants emphasize the use of integration for direct calculations and the application of the Hellmann-Feynman Theorem to derive expectation values for kinetic and potential energies. The formulas for average kinetic and potential energies are = \langle \psi \mid \frac{p^2}{2m}\mid \psi \rangle and = \langle \psi \mid \frac{ke^2}{r}\mid \psi \rangle.

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Homework Statement


Calculate the average potential and kinetic energies for the electron in the ground state of hydrogen.

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I know that KE = E - <U(r)>. I know that E = (-KZ^2e^2)/(2a0) and I know that U(r) = -KZe^2/r but I can't figure out how to get the average potential energy from this so that the denominator is the same as the E and so that they can add together to get KE.
 
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MisterX said:
You could always just calculate them directly by integration.
$$<KE> = \langle \psi \mid \frac{p^2}{2m}\mid \psi \rangle$$
$$<U> = \langle \psi \mid \frac{ke^2}{r}\mid \psi \rangle$$
You can also get some expectation values using the "Hellman-Feynman Theorem"
see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellmann–Feynman_theorem#Expectation_values
Thanks a lot! That makes a lot of sense. I appreciate it!
 

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