Average Pressure Radiation on Perfectly Absorbing Surface

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The discussion revolves around the average pressure exerted by a sinusoidal electromagnetic wave on perfectly absorbing and reflecting surfaces at varying distances from the source. The original poster attempts to determine the average pressure on a perfectly absorbing surface located twice as far from the light source compared to a perfectly reflecting surface.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between distance and pressure, noting the squared nature of distance in intensity calculations. There are conflicting interpretations of the resulting pressure values, with some suggesting a factor of 1/8 and others proposing 1/4 based on different reasoning.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the pressure calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the factors affecting pressure due to distance and absorption, but no consensus has been reached on the correct answer.

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Participants are referencing an external source that discusses a similar problem involving perfectly reflecting surfaces, which may introduce additional complexity to the current problem involving absorbing surfaces.

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Homework Statement


A light source radiates a sinusoidal electromagnetic wave uniformly in all directions. This wave exerts an average pressure p on a perfectly reflecting surface a distance R away from it. What average pressure (in terms of p) would this wave exert on a perfectly absorbing surface that was twice as far from the source?

Homework Equations


pressure radiation of perfect absorber = (Intensity)/(speed of light)

pressure radiation of perfect reflector = (2 * Intensity)/(speed of light)

Intensity = (Power)/(Area)

Surface Area of Sphere = 4*pi*R^2

The Attempt at a Solution


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Since you probably can't see that, here's an imgur link: https://imgur.com/a/uxltWGV

When I try to do the math, I get that it's a factor of 1/8. But, if I try to reason through it, it seems like 1/4 is a reasonable answer since I'm just doubling a square factor.

Thanks for your time.
 

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rugerts said:
since I'm just doubling a square factor.
You are doubling the distance factor, which is squared, but you are also getting afactor of 1/2 from the absorption. Where's the puzzle?
 
haruspex said:
You are doubling the distance factor, which is squared, but you are also getting afactor of 1/2 from the absorption. Where's the puzzle?
The puzzle is that I get an answer of 1/8 and an answer I found online is 1/4.
 
rugerts said:
The puzzle is that I get an answer of 1/8 and an answer I found online is 1/4.
Please post the link.
 
haruspex said:
Please post the link.

http://www.slader.com/textbook/9780321696861-sears-and-zemanskys-university-physics-with-modern-physics-13th-edition/1074/discussion-questions/12/
 
haruspex said:
Please post the link.
?
 
rugerts said:
http://www.slader.com/textbook/9780321696861-sears-and-zemanskys-university-physics-with-modern-physics-13th-edition/1074/discussion-questions/12/
The question discussed at that link considers two perfectly reflecting surfaces. The question in post #1 of this thread compares a reflecting surface with an absorbing one.
 
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