Avg. Velocity = Distance Traveled / Time Traveled

In summary, the conversation discusses two formulas for average velocity and whether they are the same. The first formula is Avg. Velocity = Distance Traveled / Time Traveled and the second formula is Avg. Velocity = V1 + V2 / 2 (V1 = d1/t1 & V2 = d2/t2). The conversation also includes an example problem and calculations using both formulas, which result in the same average velocity. However, the question is raised whether this is always the case or if there are situations where the two formulas may not give the same result. The conversation ends by asking for a mathematical proof to support the answer.
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Do you know if these two formulas are the same?

Avg. Velocity = Distance Traveled / Time Traveled

&

Avg. Velocity = V1 + V2 / 2 (V1 = d1/t1 & V2 = d2/t2)

I have a problem that says that a plain goes from a place to another(1) and from there it goes to another place (2).

So:

t1 = 3 h & d1 = 375 km
t2 = 2 h & d2 = 250 km

and using both of the formulas I get the same Average Velocity.
So:

Formula 1 = (375/3 + 250/2)/2 = 125 m/s
.......... ----> Formula 1 = Formula 2
Formula 2 = (375 + 250)/(3+2) = 125 m/s
So I'm guessing they are the same. But my science teacher says they're not.

Do you agree with my teacher? How come?

If you think its right, can you show me a mathematical way to prove it?

Thanks.

P.S. Please answer ASAP.
 
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  • #2
You are only getting away with Formula 1 because the velocity is constant in your example. What if it wasn't constant?

Say the plane moved a distance of 300 km in 2 hours, then an additional 300 km in 1 hour. Compare your formulas in this case.
 
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I would agree with your teacher that these two formulas are not exactly the same. While they may result in the same average velocity in this specific scenario, they represent different concepts and should not be used interchangeably.

The first formula, Avg. Velocity = Distance Traveled / Time Traveled, is a basic definition of average velocity, where distance and time are directly related to each other. This formula is used when an object travels at a constant velocity over a certain distance and time period.

The second formula, Avg. Velocity = V1 + V2 / 2, is an approximation of average velocity. This formula is used when an object travels at different velocities over a certain distance and time period. It takes into account the different velocities by averaging them.

In your example, the plane travels at a constant velocity for the first leg of the journey (375 km in 3 hours) and then at a different constant velocity for the second leg (250 km in 2 hours). In this case, the two formulas will give the same result because the velocities are constant. However, if the plane were to travel at varying velocities throughout the journey, the two formulas would give different results.

To prove that these two formulas are not the same, we can use a simple counterexample. Let's say the plane traveled 500 km in 5 hours for the first leg and then 100 km in 1 hour for the second leg. Using the first formula, we get an average velocity of 100 km/h. Using the second formula, we get an average velocity of 112.5 km/h. This shows that the two formulas are not equivalent and cannot be used interchangeably.

In conclusion, while the two formulas may give the same result in certain scenarios, they represent different concepts and should not be considered the same. As a scientist, it is important to understand the concepts behind the formulas and use them appropriately in different situations.
 

1. What is average velocity?

Average velocity is a measure of an object's displacement over a certain period of time. It is calculated by dividing the distance traveled by the time taken to travel that distance.

2. How is average velocity different from instantaneous velocity?

Average velocity takes into account the total displacement over a period of time, while instantaneous velocity is the velocity at a specific moment in time. Average velocity provides a more general overview, while instantaneous velocity gives a more detailed snapshot of an object's velocity.

3. What units are used to measure average velocity?

The units used to measure average velocity can vary depending on the system of measurement being used. In the metric system, average velocity is typically measured in meters per second (m/s). In the imperial system, it is often measured in feet per second (ft/s) or miles per hour (mph).

4. Can average velocity be negative?

Yes, average velocity can be negative. This indicates that the object is moving in a direction opposite to the positive direction that was chosen. For example, a car traveling westward with a positive direction being east, would have a negative average velocity.

5. How does time affect average velocity?

The time taken to travel a certain distance is directly proportional to the average velocity. This means that as the time taken increases, the average velocity decreases and vice versa. In other words, the longer it takes to travel a certain distance, the slower the average velocity will be.

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