Avogadro's Theory: Molecules & Atoms Relationship

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The discussion revolves around Avogadro's Theory and its implications for the relationship between molecules and atoms in chemical equations. Participants explore both the foundational concepts of Avogadro's number and its application to gases under specific conditions, as well as the interpretation of chemical reactions involving elements and compounds.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the relationship between the number of molecules and atoms in a chemical equation, suggesting that they might be the same.
  • Another participant clarifies that Avogadro's number (6.022 x 10^23) represents one mole of "things," which can be either atoms (for elements) or molecules (for compounds).
  • Examples are provided to illustrate how to apply Avogadro's number in a chemical equation, specifically using silicon and oxygen to form silicon dioxide.
  • A later reply introduces the concept of Avogadro's principle regarding gases, stating that equal volumes of gases at the same temperature and pressure contain an equal number of molecules.
  • Examples of gas reactions are presented to demonstrate how stoichiometry can predict gas volumes based on their coefficients in a balanced equation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the basic principles of Avogadro's Theory and its application to chemical equations, but there is no consensus on the initial participant's understanding of the relationship between molecules and atoms, as they seek further clarification.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the conditions under which Avogadro's principle applies, particularly regarding temperature and pressure for gases. There is also an acknowledgment of the complexity of interpreting certain chemical species, such as silicon dioxide, in terms of molecular representation.

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Homework Statement


This question might sound confusing, because my teacher said it only once, and I don't think I have it down right. So if the question is confusing but you know what I'am trying to get at, please say so. The question is: According to Avogadro's Theory, how are the number of molecules and atoms related in a chemical equation?


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I don't think equations are necessary.


The Attempt at a Solution


I think that the number of molecules would be the same as the number of atoms in a chemical equation, but I'am not sure.
 
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I think I understand your question

Avogadro's number = 6.022 x 10^23 "things" = 1 mole

1.the "things" may be ATOMS if the substance is an ELEMENT

so 6.022 x 10^23 "ATOMS" = 1 mole of an ELEMENT

2. the "things" may be MOLECULES if the substance is a COMPOUND (molecular to be precise)

so 6.022 x 10^23 "MOLECULES" = 1 mole of an COMPOUND

For the equation:

Si + O2 ---> SiO2

1 mol Si + 1 mol O2 ---> 1 mol SiO2

6.022 x 10^23 "ATOMS" Si + 6.022 x 10^23 "MOLECULES" O2 ---> 6.022 x 10^23 "MOLECULES" SiO2

If this is not what you mean, then pls ask again, it may be related to the other aspect of Avogadro's principle of gases and equal volumes of gases = equal volumes of moles


(my example is just to illustrate the point, even though also SiO2 really exists as a network solid so its stretching it a bit to think of it as a single molecule)
 
Thanks for the explanation. You cleared up a lot of the confusion I had. Can you also explain the other aspect of Avogadro's principle of gases and equal volumes of gases = equal volumes of moles that you mentioned please?
 
glad you got the first part


Avogadro's principle (this he really did - Avogadro's number he never calculated - they just honored him with it since the Principle led others to the huge number)

Comparing gases AT THE SAME TEMP AND PRESSURE (same conditions - not necessarily at STP) in a reaction mixture...

- the volume of Gas A will have the same number of molecules (or can say moles) of Gas B if Gas B has the with the same volume as Gas A

Classic example:

H2 + Cl2 ---> 2HCl

coefficients 1 1 2
volumes (eg. in L) 1L 1L 2L
molecules/mole 1 1 2



or N2 + 3H2 ---> 2NH3

coefficients 1 3 2
volumes (eg. in L) 1L 3L 2L
molecules/mole 1 3 2


so we can predict the volumes of gases using stoichiometry

just remember this works ONLY if the gases are under the same conditions
 

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