Understanding Heat of Atomization: Equations and Problem-Solving Techniques

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The discussion revolves around the concept of heat of atomization, specifically focusing on how to write chemical equations for atomization processes. Participants are addressing a homework problem that involves the atomization of graphite and methane, as well as the associated heat values.

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  • Homework-related
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a homework statement regarding the heat of atomization and attempts to write the corresponding chemical equations for graphite and methane.
  • Another participant corrects the first equation, stating that CH4 is not a solid and suggests the correct form should include CH4(g) instead.
  • A later reply reiterates the correction about CH4 and proposes a revised set of equations, questioning how the kj/mol values would change for each equation.
  • Another participant agrees with the first two equations but suggests that the last equation should be doubled, emphasizing the need to clarify the definition of atomization used.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the correctness of the equations presented, as participants express differing views on the proper formulation of the equations and the implications for the heat values. Multiple competing views remain regarding the correct approach to writing the equations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential ambiguities in the definitions of atomization and the representation of substances in their gaseous states, which may affect the formulation of the equations.

Lori

Homework Statement


So, my textbook doesn't go over these type of problems for heat of atomization , so I am confused on how to write the chemical equations for them.

Question: The heat of atomization is the heat needed to separated gaseous atoms from a substance in its standard state. The equation for the atomization of graphite is C(graphite) --> C(gas)

Homework Equations


Given,
1) Heat of formation for CH4 = -74.9 Kj/mol
2)Heat of atomization for CH4 = 1660 kj/mol
3) heat of atomization for H2 = 423 kj/mol

The Attempt at a Solution


For the equation number 1, i got C(graphite) + 2H2 -> CH4(s)
for number 2, i got C(graphite) + 4H -> C(g) + H(g)
For 3, i got 1/2H2(g) --> H(g)

I'm not sure if the second one is write. I was thinking that if i was able to write the equations correctly, then i can do some cancellation so i get C(graphite) --> C(gas).
 
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CH4 is not solid (check your first equation). In the second you should have just CH4(g) on the left, not some combination of separated elements.
 
Borek said:
CH4 is not solid (check your first equation). In the second you should have just CH4(g) on the left, not some combination of separated elements.
Borek said:
CH4 is not solid (check your first equation). In the second you should have just CH4(g) on the left, not some combination of separated elements.
So it should look like this?

C(graphite) + 2H2(g) -> CH4(g)
CH4(g) -> C(g) + H(g)
1/2H2(g) --> H(g)

How would the kj/mol change for each equation? Would they remain the same?
 
First two equations look OK, I think the last one should be doubled - it is about atomizing a molecule, not half of the molecule. But in general you should check what definition you were given, as these things are often ambiguous.
 

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