Avoid Killer Asteroids: Simple Solution Discovered

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The discussion revolves around potential solutions for avoiding catastrophic asteroid impacts, exploring various detection and deflection strategies. Participants examine the feasibility of current technologies, the challenges of timely detection, and the implications for future space exploration and safety.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests a method of landing on an asteroid and using its propulsion system to alter its trajectory, though they acknowledge their limited background in the subject.
  • Another participant raises concerns about the time constraints involved in detecting and responding to an asteroid threat, emphasizing the need for early detection systems.
  • A participant notes that the current detection rate of potentially hazardous asteroids is low, estimating that only 10-15% have been catalogued, and stresses the importance of improving detection capabilities.
  • One participant mentions their ongoing project aimed at developing a detection system and invites collaboration to propose it to NASA.
  • Several participants discuss the Gaia satellite's capabilities, with some arguing it can effectively detect asteroids while others express skepticism about its limitations and the need for a more comprehensive detection system.
  • Concerns are raised about the ability to detect smaller asteroids and the challenges posed by their dark appearance until they are very close to Earth.
  • Some participants argue that a real-time, all-direction detection system is necessary for effective early warning, while others counter that existing systems can predict asteroid paths based on observation data.
  • There is a discussion about the uncertainty surrounding the number of near-Earth objects (NEOs) and the effectiveness of current cataloguing efforts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the effectiveness of current asteroid detection methods and the feasibility of proposed solutions. There is no consensus on the best approach to early detection or deflection strategies, indicating ongoing debate and uncertainty in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in current detection systems, including time constraints for response and the challenges of observing asteroids that are not part of known populations. The discussion reflects a variety of assumptions about the capabilities of existing technologies and the need for further advancements.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those involved in space science, asteroid detection technologies, and planetary defense strategies, as well as individuals curious about the challenges of human expansion into space.

  • #31
phinds said:
I see that rather than address my criticism, you are attempting to deflect it by objecting to my wording. So back to the question --- who DO you think would pay for all that stuff you mentioned?

Maybe if you want your criticism addressed you should prune unnecessary attacks from it.
 
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  • #32
Pds3.14 said:
Exactly, so instead of one Saturn V, we need to figure out a way to launch 200 Saturn Vs and land them all with fuel still there on the Asteroid.

Makes this even less feasible.

Of course, there is always the nuclear option, if you vaporize part of the asteroid, the gas expelled kicks the rest of it back. In this case, the goal would be to maximize volume of material expelled to maximize the momentum change.

Blowing up asteroids is not an option, we are far better off trying to deflect one 1km object than dealing with the newly created 50+ 250mtr objects!
As for pushing it away with a rocket, that is hard to do with a spinning object.
The best way, (if we have the lead time) would be to gravitationally tow it to a new orbit/trajectory which will miss us. We could even try to tow it to a le grange point so it could be mined in the future, (mind you, that would take some doing).Damo
 
  • #33
Damo ET said:
Blowing up asteroids is not an option, we are far better off trying to deflect one 1km object than dealing with the newly created 50+ 250mtr objects!
It depends on the size - blowing up a 20m asteroid into hundreds of 2m asteroids would be fine.

As for pushing it away with a rocket, that is hard to do with a spinning object.
Usually the rotation is slow - if it rotates once in a few hours, you can account for that.
 
  • #34
mfb said:
It depends on the size - blowing up a 20m asteroid into hundreds of 2m asteroids would be fine.

True, but why would 'we' bother blowing up something as small as 20mtrs when:
a, we aren't going to see it if it a rocky/iron object that size till we get hit
b, if it is icy and visible, it is going to vaporize high in the atmosphere an at most scare a few fish with the bright flash.

Blowing them up isn't a sensible option.


Damo
 
  • #35
The Chelyabinsk meteor this year had an estimated diameter of 20m and a kinetic energy of ~500kT. Have such an object explode over a city, and you don't get away with 1500 injured people.
If you like bigger threats, fine. As long as the products of the explosion are too small to be problematic, a big nuke is an option.
 
  • #36
An asteroid has a lot of mass and probably a lot of velocity. If you know a rocket that can get to said asteroid, and still have the delta velocity available to push an asteroid out of orbit, give NASA a ring!
 
  • #37
Perhaps you've heard about the project channel Discovery "Day of the asteroid." They are asked to send methods of protection from asteroids, but I decided to write to you. It's strange, but nobody even discusses this method deviations, even very large stones. Blowing them with nuclear weapons may not be effective or even harmful. But a series of nuclear explosions near the trajectory of the asteroid at a distance of action of blast waves, on the side opposite to the desired direction of change in its trajectory, can really solve the problem. Nuclear weapons we have a lot on Earth. Certainly it needs to check the trajectory of the asteroid, after each explosion to adjust the position of the next explosion.
Questions. Where is he now? Can we reach it? What is the accuracy of hitting a given point? How fast can we find out if he strayed and how much?
 
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