Bachelor of Arts or Bachelor of Science? (Pursuing PhD)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the decision of whether to pursue a Bachelor of Arts (BA) or a Bachelor of Science (BS) in physics, particularly in the context of preparing for graduate school and a PhD. Participants explore the implications of each degree type, including course requirements and potential impacts on future academic opportunities.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the choice between a BA and a BS may depend on the specific college's requirements, with BA programs typically requiring more humanities and social sciences, while BS programs focus more on science.
  • Others argue that at some institutions, there may be no practical difference between a BA and a BS, making the choice less significant.
  • A participant questions the nature of a BA in physics, humorously suggesting unconventional interpretations of the degree's curriculum.
  • Some participants share personal experiences, indicating that a BA in physics can still lead to successful admission into graduate programs, emphasizing the importance of the courses taken rather than the degree label.
  • There is mention of specific colleges, such as Harvard, that only offer a BA in physics, suggesting that the reputation of the program may also play a role in the decision.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of the BA versus BS distinction, with some emphasizing the importance of course content and others focusing on institutional differences. The discussion remains unresolved regarding which degree is more advantageous for pursuing a PhD in physics.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the variability of degree requirements across different colleges and the lack of clear guidance on the implications of choosing one degree over the other. Participants also note that the discussion does not reach a consensus on the best path forward.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering a major in physics and those planning to apply to graduate programs in STEM fields may find this discussion relevant as they navigate their degree options.

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I am trying to apply to colleges online to transfer to next year after I finish my AA. However, I am not sure if I am applying for a Bachelor of Arts or Science? I am a physics major looking to get my BA and then head on to grad school for my PhD. Not sure if that determines which I choose or not. If anyone can help me out, I'd appreciate it. I searched the web but found no clear-cut answer.
 
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Ascendant78 said:
I am trying to apply to colleges online to transfer to next year after I finish my AA. However, I am not sure if I am applying for a Bachelor of Arts or Science? I am a physics major looking to get my BA and then head on to grad school for my PhD. Not sure if that determines which I choose or not. If anyone can help me out, I'd appreciate it. I searched the web but found no clear-cut answer.

Have you tried looking at the colleges website? On the transfer application, there should be an option, if not I'm sure you can tell your advisor once you switch to your new school that you're pursing your BA.
 
Astrometry said:
Have you tried looking at the colleges website? On the transfer application, there should be an option, if not I'm sure you can tell your advisor once you switch to your new school that you're pursing your BA.

Maybe you misunderstood my question. Both options are on the online application. I am simply not sure which one to choose on the application.

As far as their website, I can't find any information that tells me which one I should choose. From what I am gathering from what you posted here, I want to pursue my BA if I am going to pursue grad school and a PhD later on? Is it optional or is that simply the one you pursue for that path?
 
At some schools, the requirements to get a BA and a BS are different. In these schools, usually the BA would require more humanities, social sciences, and arts courses, while the BS would be more focused on science. If you are applying to one of these, you probably want to get a BS if you are going on to grad school in a scientific field.

At some schools, you just get to choose whether you want a BA or a BS, and there is no practical difference between the two. At these schools, it wouldn't matter which one you choose.

Some schools don't even offer a BA in physics at all.
 
eigenperson said:
At some schools, the requirements to get a BA and a BS are different. In these schools, usually the BA would require more humanities, social sciences, and arts courses, while the BS would be more focused on science. If you are applying to one of these, you probably want to get a BS if you are going on to grad school in a scientific field.

At some schools, you just get to choose whether you want a BA or a BS, and there is no practical difference between the two. At these schools, it wouldn't matter which one you choose.

Some schools don't even offer a BA in physics at all.

Well thanks for the information. I guess my best bet then would be to call the college and find out from them directly to be sure.
 
eigenperson said:
At some schools, the requirements to get a BA and a BS are different. In these schools, usually the BA would require more humanities, social sciences, and arts courses, while the BS would be more focused on science. If you are applying to one of these, you probably want to get a BS if you are going on to grad school in a scientific field.

At some schools, you just get to choose whether you want a BA or a BS, and there is no practical difference between the two. At these schools, it wouldn't matter which one you choose.

Some schools don't even offer a BA in physics at all.

I'm not sure what a Bachelor in Arts in Physics would be. Using collages to illustrate Newton's Laws? Interpretive dance to intuit conservation of momentum? Writing epic poems about quantum theory?
 
SteamKing said:
I'm not sure what a Bachelor in Arts in Physics would be. Using collages to illustrate Newton's Laws? Interpretive dance to intuit conservation of momentum? Writing epic poems about quantum theory?
That would be nice, but I think it usually means that you took an ordinary physics curriculum (sometimes with fewer technical electives) while also studying the traditional liberal arts.
 
Ascendant78 said:
Well thanks for the information. I guess my best bet then would be to call the college and find out from them directly to be sure.

Surely the college's website has that information, listed under something like "requirements for the degree" or "general education requirements." General information about the degrees that they offer is probably listed separately from the physics major requirements because it's probably the same for all departments college-wide.

As far as graduate schools are concerned, what counts is is courses you take, not the label on the degree.

SteamKing said:
I'm not sure what a Bachelor in Arts in Physics would be. Using collages to illustrate Newton's Laws? Interpretive dance to intuit conservation of momentum? Writing epic poems about quantum theory?

I have a B.A. in physics from a small liberal-arts college that gave only B.A. degrees. It included the usual core courses: intro classical and modern physics, intermediate/advanced E&M, quantum, thermo, classical mechanics, electronics, etc., along with some research experience. It got me into grad school and a Ph.D. at Michigan. All the physics majors who graduated along with me (three) went to grad school, in fact.

I understand that Harvard also offers "only" a B.A. in physics. :wink:
 
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What Eigenperson said. And what jtbell said too. I went to a small liberal arts college for undergrad and B.A.s were the only thing you could get in physics. From what I've seen, our topic coverage was actually broader and deeper than a lot of B.S. programs. The downside was that it was done in fewer courses, since you also had to do all the liberal arts things (which is good in my opinion).

It also got me into an Ivy for a Ph.D. So depending on the quality of the program, don't knock a B.A. It really depends on the specifics of the program.
 

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