Back to school for pure mathematics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the potential transition from a career in mechanical engineering to pursuing pure mathematics. Participants explore personal experiences, motivations for changing fields, and the implications of studying pure mathematics, including job opportunities and research experiences.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses dissatisfaction with their current role in mechanical engineering, primarily involving CAD software, and contemplates returning to school for pure mathematics.
  • Another participant shares a historical perspective on their experience studying pure mathematics, highlighting a lack of practical application in their courses and suggesting that the fit between the student and the program is crucial.
  • Some participants question whether a focus on applied mathematics might have been more beneficial, suggesting that it could lead to more satisfying coursework and career opportunities.
  • A participant reflects on their diverse career path that includes industrial research and academic positions, emphasizing the importance of aligning educational choices with personal interests and career goals.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the merits of pursuing pure mathematics versus applied mathematics, with differing opinions on the potential job opportunities and satisfaction derived from each path. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best choice for the original poster.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the implications of studying pure mathematics, including job market conditions and personal fulfillment. There are also references to the importance of faculty alignment with student goals, which may vary by institution.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals considering a career change from engineering to mathematics, students evaluating their educational paths, and those interested in the relationship between academic study and career satisfaction may find this discussion relevant.

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Hi,
So I am currently a mechanical engineer working in aerospace designing and testing different interior assemblies, video arms, meal tables, etc. For a while now I have been thinking that this field is just not up my alley. I probably use Creo for about 80% of my time while the other 20% I am testing and writing plans. I have some friends and family in mechanical engineering and they do essentially the same thing. I have been thinking for a while now that overall this field just isn't right for me. I went into it because of not knowing what to do and i have family members that are M.E.s and I figured it would pay well. At this point I don't really care about the money and would rather do something that I enjoy. I had always had a back thought that I wouldn't care about going back to school and acquiring more debt if it was for something I really wanted to do. At the moment I have been thinking of going back to school for pure mathematics and then move on from there. I had always enjoyed math and I tended to be good at it. I usually would get the hang of it quicker than at least the people I studied with and would try to help them understand. I have been going over some maths to re-jog my memory and it has been enjoyable so far.

How has working in mathematics been? Has there been any regrets to going into pure mathematics in terms of job opportunities? How is the research (I know that is broad)?

This is more of a curiosity question since I know I don't want to be in the of M.E. field any longer.
Is this what a lot of mechanical engineers do, that is work primarily with cad software? Or is it just the aerospace field in particular?
 
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I should add that I have looked at the other threads relating to going into pure math. Honestly, my underlying question is am I making the right choice, but I know that is subjective.
 
Are you sure you know what you would be getting into? Let me tell you my experience.

Back in 1960, I transferred to UT-Austin to study pure math. There were two really famous men on the faculty at that time, R.L.. Moore and A.M. Wahl, both "pure mathematicians." I was assigned Moore as an advisor, and when I told him that l wanted to take second year physics, he said, "My students don't take physics," but I did anyway.

I also signed up for Diff Eq under Wahl. We spend the entire semester, every class period, proving properties of the solutions of x''+k^2*x =0, but we never learned how to find any solution at all. I had second thoughts about all of this, and went to engineering instead.

Be sure you and your school are on the same page.
 
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Dr.D said:
Are you sure you know what you would be getting into? Let me tell you my experience.

Back in 1960, I transferred to UT-Austin to study pure math. There were two really famous men on the faculty at that time, R.L.. Moore and A.M. Wahl, both "pure mathematicians." I was assigned Moore as an advisor, and when I told him that l wanted to take second year physics, he said, "My students don't take physics," but I did anyway.

I also signed up for Diff Eq under Wahl. We spend the entire semester, every class period, proving properties of the solutions of x''+k^2*x =0, but we never learned how to find any solution at all. I had second thoughts about all of this, and went to engineering instead.

Be sure you and your school are on the same page.
Would a choice toward not-so-pure Mathematics been a better choice for you? Maybe more "applied" courses or program would have given you more desireable or satisfying courses.
 
symbolipoint said:
Would a choice toward not-so-pure Mathematics been a better choice for you? Maybe more "applied" courses or program would have given you more desireable or satisfying courses.

Probably not. I wound up in the right place, I think, in the Engineering Science degree program, then on for MS and PhD in ME. That's really where I learned how to solve DEs. But what was right for me may not be right for the OP.
 
Dr.D said:
Are you sure you know what you would be getting into? Let me tell you my experience.

Back in 1960, I transferred to UT-Austin to study pure math. There were two really famous men on the faculty at that time, R.L.. Moore and A.M. Wahl, both "pure mathematicians." I was assigned Moore as an advisor, and when I told him that l wanted to take second year physics, he said, "My students don't take physics," but I did anyway.

I also signed up for Diff Eq under Wahl. We spend the entire semester, every class period, proving properties of the solutions of x''+k^2*x =0, but we never learned how to find any solution at all. I had second thoughts about all of this, and went to engineering instead.

Be sure you and your school are on the same page.

Thank you for the response Dr.D. I have enjoyed all of my math teachers, save 1, thus far but that is a good point to consider the professors with the school. I know if I went back to school and my opinion changed and I did not want to continue in mathematics I would always have the M.E. degree to fall back on and with a fuller math background. However, that does just put me back in the same position.

If you don't mind me asking what kind of work/research have you gone into?
 
Since you asked, my career has been a mix of industrial research (Hamilton Watch Co, Bethlehem Steel Homer Labs, Stewart & Stevenson (diesel engine distributor/packager), Southwest Research Institute, Naval Surface Warfare Center), academic faculty positions (UT-Austin, Texas A&M, Louisiana Tech, NC State, UW-Platteville, MSOE, and others), along with some private practice as an engineering consultant. I'm registered in two states, and I've published in a variety of journals (ASME, SAE, Mech Mach Theory, etc). Now I am retired and re-writing a textbook I published almost 30 years ago. Through it all, my interest has been consistently in dynamics and dynamic systems modeling and analysis.
 
Dr.D said:
Since you asked, my career has been a mix of industrial research (Hamilton Watch Co, Bethlehem Steel Homer Labs, Stewart & Stevenson (diesel engine distributor/packager), Southwest Research Institute, Naval Surface Warfare Center), academic faculty positions (UT-Austin, Texas A&M, Louisiana Tech, NC State, UW-Platteville, MSOE, and others), along with some private practice as an engineering consultant. I'm registered in two states, and I've published in a variety of journals (ASME, SAE, Mech Mach Theory, etc). Now I am retired and re-writing a textbook I published almost 30 years ago. Through it all, my interest has been consistently in dynamics and dynamic systems modeling and analysis.

Oh wow that's quite a lot that you have done. I think it is the most diverse/largest portfolio of someone's career that I have seen. System dynamics was definitely one of the better subjects I had when I was in school. Thank you for sharing.
 

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