Ball thrown into a vertical jet?

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The discussion centers on the dynamics of a ball thrown into a vertical water jet, exploring its oscillatory motion and potential equilibrium position. The participant hypothesizes that the ball oscillates up and down but questions whether it reaches a stable equilibrium due to varying forces within the jet. Key concepts include the interaction between the ball and the water's velocity, with the participant noting that the water's downward speed may exceed the ball's descent, complicating the ball's motion. The discussion highlights the complexity of forces at play, particularly the varying strength of the jet at different heights.

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  • Understanding of basic physics concepts such as forces and motion
  • Familiarity with fluid dynamics, particularly jet behavior
  • Knowledge of oscillatory motion and equilibrium states
  • Ability to interpret and create sketches of physical scenarios
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  • Research the principles of fluid dynamics, focusing on jet flow characteristics
  • Study oscillatory motion in physics, particularly in relation to forces
  • Explore the concept of equilibrium in dynamic systems
  • Learn about the effects of varying forces in fluid systems and their impact on objects
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Ball thrown into a vertical jet?

Homework Statement


Like any good physicist, I always have a ball in my pocket to throw into
the vertical jet of any fountain I happen to find. The result is entertaining (at least I think
so). Explain, with a sketch, what you expect to see (you need not derive any equations).

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm guessing the ball oscillates up an down...but does it eventually come to rest at its equilibrium position?
Where is the spring force coming from? That is the force that pushes the ball back up once it as gone vertically down on the jet...why doesn't the ball just stay down?
 
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When the water falls back down, the water would fall faster than the ball can fall with the water, depending on the speed of the jet perhaps?

Also, I doubt it ever reaches an equilibrium position, as that would require the water to have an equal spring force in all areas of the jet, while in real life I think the top of the jet is weaker than the middle or the bottom.

I dunno, just throwing in some ideas. I could be wrong..
 

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