When does the speed of a ball thrown in the air start decreasing?

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The discussion revolves around the motion of a ball thrown vertically upwards, specifically focusing on when the speed of the ball begins to decrease after being launched. Participants explore concepts related to acceleration due to gravity and the effects of air resistance on the ball's speed during its ascent and descent.

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  • The original poster questions whether the speed of the ball starts decreasing immediately after it leaves the hand or at another point during its flight. Some participants discuss the relationship between initial speed and the speed upon return, considering factors like air resistance.

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Participants have provided insights regarding the effects of gravity and air resistance on the ball's motion. There is acknowledgment of differing conditions in exam scenarios versus real-life situations, particularly regarding the assumption of no air resistance in theoretical problems.

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There is a mention of the assumption that in exam questions, air resistance is typically neglected, which influences the conclusions drawn about the speed of the ball upon return to the hand.

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When you throw a ball up (vertically; with no horizontal component), when does the speed of the ball start decreasing? I mean it has to decrease for it to stop (momentarily) and then come back down.. Does the speed start decreasing as soon as the ball leaves your hand? or is it at another stage during the journey?
 
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influx said:
When you throw a ball up (vertically; with no horizontal component), when does the speed of the ball start decreasing?


as soon as it leaves your hand …

its constant acceleration is g downward the whole time it's in the air

if it starts with speed v upward, then after time t its speed is v - gt (ie downward after t = v/g) :wink:
 


tiny-tim said:
..

Thanks :)

So the fastest speed the ball can achieve is the initial speed (the speed you launch the ball with)?

Also, on the journey back down, the speed of the ball at the instant it hits your hand (assuming you have not moved your hand since the launch) has to be less than the launch speed right? Is this due to the work done against air resistance?

Thanks :P
 
influx said:
Thanks :)

So the fastest speed the ball can achieve is the initial speed (the speed you launch the ball with)?

only if you catch it! :biggrin:
Also, on the journey back down, the speed of the ball at the instant it hits your hand (assuming you have not moved your hand since the launch) has to be less than the launch speed right? Is this due to the work done against air resistance?

erm :redface: … in exam questions, there's never any air resistance! :wink:

(but yes you're correct … in real life, air resistance reduces the energy, and so the speed on the way down will be less)
 
Oh yeah true! Thanks :)

So in exam questions (where air resistance = 0), its safe to assume that the launch speed = the speed of the ball at the instant when it hits your hand?
 
influx said:
So in exam questions (where air resistance = 0), its safe to assume that the launch speed = the speed of the ball at the instant when it hits your hand?

yup! :biggrin:

(for that reason, if you're asked to find the speed on landing of something thrown out of a window, it doesn't matter whether it was thrown up or down!)
 
tiny-tim said:
yup! :biggrin:

(for that reason, if you're asked to find the speed on landing of something thrown out of a window, it doesn't matter whether it was thrown up or down!)

Thanks :). One non-physics related question, how do I stop getting emails every time someone posts in a thread I posted in?
 
at the top of each thread there's a secondary menu-bar …

click "Thread Tools" and then "Unsubscribe from this Thread" :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
at the top of each thread there's a secondary menu-bar …

click "Thread Tools" and then "Unsubscribe from this Thread" :wink:

Thank you
 

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