Ball Thrown Up Follows Curvature of Spacetime

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A ball thrown upward follows the curvature of spacetime, returning to the ground due to gravitational effects. The discussion posits that if a sufficiently large mass were placed directly overhead, it could theoretically alter the curvature of spacetime, allowing the ball to ascend again before hitting the ground. However, in a realistic scenario where Earth is the only significant mass, the ball's trajectory will always lead it back to the center of the Earth. The principles of classical Newtonian gravity adequately describe this phenomenon without requiring general relativity.

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A ball thrown up comes down again because the ball follows the curvature of spacetime. So is it possible that the ball comes down and before hitting the surface, goes up again due to curvature of the spacetime,which now point upward.
 
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rajeshmarndi said:
curvature of the spacetime,which now point upward

Why would the curvature point upward?
 
rajeshmarndi said:
A ball thrown up comes down again because the ball follows the curvature of spacetime. So is it possible that the ball comes down and before hitting the surface, goes up again due to curvature of the spacetime,which now point upward.

Sure, if you can arrange to curve spacetime in such a way that the curvature carries the path of the ball away from the surface of the earth. You could do that by arranging to fix a mass much larger than that of the Earth directly overhead. You don't even need any general relativity to do this, ordinary classical Newtonian gravity will describe this (completely impractical and unrealistic) setup just fine.

But if the Earth is the only large mass in the area, the curvature will be such that the ball's path heads towards the center of the earth. Mass and energy are what curves spacetime, so you won't get a different curvature unless you introduce another large mass into the picture.
 
PeterDonis said:
Why would the curvature point upward?
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Like in the picture, if the toy car is driven upward, when it goes to the other side, it comes down. Likewise if the line in the picture is high enough, when it can go up and come down, couldn't while it is coming down, couldn't it rise up again.

Also why is that the ball thrown vertical, always remain overhead us and do not go ahead from us in the curve path.
 
rajeshmarndi said:
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couldn't while it is coming down, couldn't it rise up again.
Nope. The path always tends towards the wider part. Get a vase, some adhesive tape, a try it out. Stick the tape as straight as possible around the vase, without tearing or folding it.

To come back it would have to fall through the Earth to the other side, where the curvature is the other way around, like shown here:
http://www.adamtoons.de/physics/gravitation.swf

rajeshmarndi said:
Also why is that the ball thrown vertical, always remain overhead us and do not go ahead from us in the curve path.
This diagram only has the vertical space dimension in it, so it can only show a vertical trajectory. The other dimension is time.
 

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