Balloon deformation - calculating effect on surface points

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This discussion focuses on calculating the forces acting on surface points of deformed balloons filled with air or water, specifically in a 2D simulation environment using C++ and the Runge-Kutta algorithm. The user seeks to understand whether simulating internal pressure in 2D is feasible and how to compute the forces on specific surface points. Key questions include the origin of the force exerted on the surface points and the method for determining the center of pressure, which may relate to centroid calculations of polygons.

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  • C++ programming skills
  • Understanding of the Runge-Kutta algorithm
  • Basic physics principles related to pressure and force
  • Familiarity with 2D geometry and centroid calculations
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  • Investigate the concept of center of pressure and its calculation methods
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This discussion is beneficial for physics simulation developers, game developers working with fluid dynamics, and anyone interested in modeling the behavior of deformable objects under pressure.

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I am befuddled over how to calculate the force acting on a surface point of a deformed balloon (filled with water or air). I have drawn a picture to help illustrate. I have written a small program in c++ that uses the Runge-Kutta algorithm to simulate simple physics systems, like networks of interconnected springs connecting point masses, in 2 dimensions. My simulation does not incorporate gravity.

I want to be able to simulate things like multiple balloons of varying internal pressures packed together in a 2d box. Or a squeezed water balloon that is instantly released and rises back into it's natural circular shape.

1.) Does it even make sense to attempt to simulate an object with internal pressure (balloon) in 2 dimensions, or are 3 dimensions absolutely required?
Assume that I can calculate the internal area of each balloon, the internal pressure, distance from the balloon's center, and all other necessary variables.
2.) How do I calculate the force exerted on the surface points pointed to by red arrows in the picture?
3.) Does the force exerted on the surface points originate from the center of pressure of the balloon? Is this center calculated like calculating the centroid of a solid polygon?
 

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Does anyone have any input? Is the question unclear? Replies are greatly appreciated.
 

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