Muti said:What is issue with most of peoples here... I admit most of peoples are very knowledgeable and that is why it is their right to ridicule anyone based on their thinking that being more knowledgeable they have a right. Preaching freedom of speech and unable of to listen to anything they consider wrong. Wow ... Lastly if we have a few more of such enlightened peoples we may have first no animals left in this world because animals can not solve mathematics and physics question. Then ...
Thank you for enlightening me. Next time I will not be sensitive rather I just walk away shaking my head...nsaspook said:freedom of speech also includes the right to ignore that speech or just walk away shaking your head.
Esnas said:Thank you, JakeBrodskyPE, for what appears to me to be your honest thoughts on the conversation that I raised above. I can certainly see that "state of mind", despair, anger and a belief that things have not gotten better would be the background for the recent destruction in Baltimore. I've only been to Baltimore once many years ago to visit a Black friend who had finished his graduate degree at Oxford (in England) so I guess that he does not count. I know no other people in Baltimore (that I am aware of). I assume that you do know "many people in West Baltimore" who were part of the protest group. Am I correct in paraphrasing you to say that these people have (1) no ambition, (2) have a culture of utter despair and (3) lack drive? I'm not sure what a "religious sense of duty" would look like. This is enough for now and I've only dealt with your first paragraph! Maybe the second paragraph next time. I shall continue to read your responses carefully but I cannot guarantee that we will arrive at the same meaning.
The point was to confirm from you that I had correctly understood your first paragraph. I did this by paraphrasing what seemed to be conveyed in your first paragraph. I was simply waiting for that confirmation and/or an expansion of the points that you already made in that paragraph. Generally, I prefer to take things very slowly. A few points at a time.JakeBrodskyPE said:I'm not sure what the point of your reply was. If you would like to suggest an alternate point of view, please do so.
JakeBrodskyPE said:I am going to say things that may get taken the wrong way, so please read carefully:
I am "privileged." Most who post here are of that ilk. We're privileged because we grew up in reasonably whole families, in communities that cared for us, and that we were able to learn the lessons our society cares most about. At one point in our lives, my parents and I were on welfare. The difference between us and many people in West Baltimore is that we had ambition, a religious sense of duty, and a feeling that we weren't going to stay this way.