Banking a Road: Calculating the Angle at 30ms^-1

  • Thread starter Thread starter Identity
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Angle
Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on calculating the banking angle for a road designed for vehicles to navigate a bend at a speed of 30 m/s without relying on friction. The radius of curvature is specified as 12 meters. The derived angle of banking is calculated using the formula θ = tan⁻¹(v²/gr), resulting in θ = 82.4°. However, a discrepancy arises when substituting this angle into the equations for normal force components, leading to confusion regarding the balance of forces acting on the vehicle.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of inclined plane physics
  • Familiarity with centripetal force concepts
  • Knowledge of trigonometric functions and their applications in physics
  • Ability to analyze free body diagrams
NEXT STEPS
  • Review the derivation of the banking angle formula in circular motion
  • Study the relationship between normal force and gravitational force on inclined planes
  • Explore the effects of friction on banking angles in real-world scenarios
  • Investigate the implications of different speeds and radii on banking angle calculations
USEFUL FOR

Students studying physics, particularly those focusing on mechanics and circular motion, as well as educators seeking to clarify concepts related to inclined planes and forces.

Identity
Messages
151
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



A road is to be banked so that any vehicle can take the bend at a speed of 30 ms^-1 without having to rely on sideways friction. The radius of the curvature of the road is 12m. At what angle should it be banked?

Homework Equations



various inclined slope equations...

The Attempt at a Solution



I got

[tex]N\cos\theta = mg[/tex],

[tex]N\sin\theta = \frac{mv^2}{r}[/tex],

so

[tex]\tan\theta = \frac{v^2}{gr}[/tex]

[tex]\therefore \theta = 82.4^{\circ}[/tex]

BUT, I have a question about this:

From a simple inclined slope, we have [tex]N = mg\cos\theta[/tex]

So, [tex]mg\cos\theta\sin\theta = \frac{mv^2}{r}[/tex]

But subbing in [tex]\theta = 82.4^{\circ}[/tex] now doesn't work! How come??
 
Physics news on Phys.org
The free body diagram of a body moving on a road banked at certain angle [tex]\theta[/tex] can be drawn as in the attachment.
In the attachment, consider the following things:
N-->Normal reaction exerted by the surface (perpendicularly) on the moving vehicle
mg--> weight of the body, acting downwards
[tex]N~cos\theta,~N~sin\theta[/tex]--> components of N

As you can see, the downward force, i.e the weight of the body is balanced by the cos component of N (Normal Reaction), and thus it is,

[tex]N~cos\theta~=~mg[/tex]

Also the centripetal force required by the vehicle to move in a circular orbit is provided by the sin component of N,

[tex]N~sin\theta~=~mv^2/r[/tex]

Now that you know this, let me add, if you resolve 'mg', you'll certainly realize...
 

Attachments

  • Freebodydiagram.GIF
    Freebodydiagram.GIF
    1.4 KB · Views: 621

Similar threads

  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
4K
  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
4K
  • · Replies 24 ·
Replies
24
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K