Banking Summer Internship for Maths Student

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the search for a banking summer internship suitable for a mathematics student, focusing on the various sectors within banks, particularly at Morgan Stanley. Participants explore options available for students with programming experience and express concerns about different roles, such as front office versus back office positions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the different sectors within banks and seeks advice on which area would be suitable for a maths student with programming experience.
  • Another participant suggests that there may not be much creative quantitative work for math interns at certain banks and recommends pursuing front office quantitative analyst internships.
  • Concerns are raised about the back office roles and the perceived lack of opportunity for impactful work in those positions.
  • A question is posed regarding the eligibility of undergraduate students for summer analyst positions, particularly in relation to the requirements listed for the strats and modeling option.
  • Clarification is provided that "IBD" stands for Investment Banking Division.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best sector for internships, as differing opinions on the value of various roles and areas within banking are presented. Uncertainty remains regarding the eligibility criteria for summer analyst positions.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in understanding the specific roles and their requirements, as well as the implications of being categorized as front office versus back office. The discussion also reflects varying perspectives on the nature of work available to interns in different banking sectors.

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I'm a maths student going into 3rd year. I was told to start early looking into a banking internship for next summer. The problem is I'm really confused by all the different sectors of the banks. Taking Morgan Stanley for example http://www.morganstanley.com/about/careers/programs/summeranalyst.html . The technology option looks like it might be suitable but I've heard lots of people saying you might want avoid being stuck in the back office. There are so many different areas and I'm wondering which one I as a maths student with programming experience would be suited too? Thanks
 
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I'm on the buy side rather than the sell side, so my advice is limited, but I don't believe there's a lot of creative quantitative work to be done at BBBs for math interns. I'd just go for any front office QA internship. Edit: Looking at the list, I'd go with either IBD or "Strats and Modeling" (never noticed MS had such a department). Possibly fixed income. I'm rather reserved about 'equity research' because that's an area where I feel intelligence is the least of an edge, even though the phrase includes the word 'research'. Ask around WSO.
 
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Thanks for the advice. I'm a bit confused about the strats and modelling option http://www.morganstanley.com/about/careers/pdf/SA_SM_QF_NA.pdf. At the bottom under requirements it says "A Bachelor’s degree with expertise in Mathematics, Financial Mathematics, Physics, Engineering, Quantitative Finance or Computer Science." It then however refers to the applicants as students. Does that mean the summer analyst positions are not open to undergraduate students? When you say IBD I assume the IB is investment banking but what does the D stand for? Thanks again
 
:) Investment banking division.
 

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