Calculate Base 10 Logs Without Calculator

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around methods for calculating multi-digit base 10 logarithms without the use of calculators or logarithm tables. Participants explore various techniques and mathematical principles to achieve this, focusing on both theoretical and practical approaches.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the feasibility of calculating log(1381.42) without a calculator, suggesting a need for alternative methods.
  • Another participant mentions that it is indeed possible, referencing historical practices before calculators were available and proposing the use of multiplicative decomposition of numbers.
  • A method involving prime factorization is suggested, where log(1381.42) is expressed in terms of logs of its prime factors, highlighting the challenge of needing logs for many primes.
  • Another approach is proposed that involves expressing the number as a product of factors with known logs and using a Taylor series expansion for small values, specifically mentioning log(1+x) approximations.
  • One participant suggests rewriting log(1381.42) as log(0.138142 x 10^4) to simplify the calculation, indicating a method to handle the logarithm of a number less than one.
  • The use of Taylor's Polynomial expansion for calculating log(x) for values between 0 and 1 is also mentioned as a potential method.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing methods for calculating logarithms without calculators, and there is no consensus on a single best approach. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the most effective technique.

Contextual Notes

Some methods depend on prior knowledge of logarithms for specific numbers, and there are limitations regarding the accuracy of approximations used in Taylor series expansions.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to students and enthusiasts of mathematics, particularly those interested in logarithmic calculations and numerical methods without technological assistance.

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Is there a way to calculate multi digit base 10 logs without a calc or tables?

eg.. what is ? log (base 10) of 1381.42?? (without a calulator)??
 
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(with caveat that i memorized log 1 - 9)
 
Of coursethat is possible, the first people who made tables did not have calculators.
since
log(ab)=log(a)+log(b)
numbers should be decomposed multiplicatively.
One method is to factor into primes
log(1381.42)=-2+log(2)+2log(17)+log(239)
This shows a problem logs of many primes will be needed
another method would involve writing the number as a product of factors with known logs and factors near 1 since when x is small
log(1+x)~log(e)[x-x^2/2+x^3/3-x^4/4+...]
say one knew log(138176)
then
log(1381.42)=-2+log(138176)-log(1+1/4064)
 
What I would do is this:
First, log(1381.42)= log(0.138142 x104)= 4+ log(0.138142).

Now, use the 'Taylor's Polynomial' expansion:
for 0< x< 1, log(x)= x+ (1/2)x2+ (1/3)x^3+ ...+ (1/n)x^n.
 

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