How Does Increasing the Mass of the Topmost Particle Affect the Center of Mass?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the center of mass for a three-particle system and exploring how increasing the mass of the topmost particle affects its position. The center of mass coordinates are derived using the formula x(com)=(x1m1+x2m2+xnmn)/M. As the mass of the topmost particle increases, the center of mass shifts closer to that particle, aligning with the definition that it behaves as if all mass were concentrated at that point. Participants suggest re-evaluating the equation to derive a more concise explanation and consider the implications as the mass approaches infinity. This mathematical approach can clarify the relationship between mass distribution and center of mass movement.
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Homework Statement


What are (a) the x coordinate and (b) the y coordinate of the center of mass of the three-particle system shown in Fig. 9-22? (c) What happens to the center of mass as the mass of the topmost particle is gradually increased?

Fig 9-22 shows a particle at the origin, a particle at (1,2) and a particle at (2,1)


Homework Equations


x(com)=(x1m1+x2m2+xnmn)/M


The Attempt at a Solution


I solved parts a and b easily. And I reasoned that the center of mass should move towards the topmost particle as the mass of the topmost particle is gradually increased because the center of mass of a system of bodies by definition is the point that moves as although all of the mass were concentrated there, and thus the center of mass will be located close to the particle with the greatest mass.

I am not sure if my answer to C is sufficient. It seems too long; I would expect a more concise explanation. I also feel as though my teacher may take my argument to be circular, perhaps the question wants you to prove the definition of center of mass than use it as proof.

What do you guys and gals think?
 
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look closely at your equation for the center of mass... Try to decompose the fraction and rewrite it in a different way. You could then get your conclusion mathematically just by reasoning about the proportions of the masses, and thinking about how the y(com) and x(com) change as, say, m3 starts to increase. For that matter, think also about what happens as m3 goes to infinity. (not sure if you did this in class yet, but it would show your result very nicely as well)
 
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The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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