Basic DC Circuits - Kirchoff's Rules Lab questions

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The discussion revolves around applying Kirchhoff's rules to analyze a basic DC circuit. The original poster is attempting to derive a formula for the current i2 using the circuit diagram provided, identifying two junctions and three loops in the process.

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  • Exploratory, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster presents equations based on Kirchhoff's laws but expresses uncertainty about their correctness and how to manipulate them to isolate i2. Some participants suggest using computational tools like Wolfram Alpha to assist in solving the equations, while others share their attempts at reformulating the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods to approach the problem. There is no explicit consensus yet, but some guidance has been offered regarding the use of computational tools and reformulating equations.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions that ε1 is a fixed power supply and ε2 is a variable power supply, which may influence the approach to solving the equations. There is also a noted discomfort with systems of equations, which could affect the problem-solving process.

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Homework Statement


I need to come up with a formula to solve for i2 given the diagram of the circuit attached. I can identify 2 junctions and 3 loops.

Homework Equations


*The algebraic sum of the currents into any junction is 0. By convention the currents entering the junction are positive and the currents leaving the junction are negative.
*The algebraic sum of the potential differences in any loop must equal 0.

Junction B: i1-i2+i3=0 (Eq.1)
Junction E: -i1+i2-i3=0 (Eq.2)
Loop ABEF: ε1-i1R1-i2R2=0 (Eq.3)
Loop BCDE: ε2-i3R3-i2R2=0 (Eq.4)
Loop ACDF: ε1-i1R1+i3R32=0 (Eq.5)

The Attempt at a Solution


Here is where I run into trouble. I am having difficulty using the above equations to find a formula for i2. I am not sure if the equations above have an error in them or if I am heading in the wrong direction. I need to get everything in terms of R1,R2,R3 and ε. In the experiment ε1 is a fixed power supply and ε2 is a variable power supply. I am assuming we can add and subtract them and get:
ε1-1R1+i3R32=0 → -i1R1+i3R3=0
But I cannot seem to work the equations well enough to get everything in terms of Rx, i2 and ε so like I said I think there is an error above. I am also not very comfortable working with systems of equations.
 

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Have you tried using Woflram Alpha (or similar programs) to solve them? That could help you to find out if you stated the problem correctly. I can help you if you don't know how to use it.
 
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I have used Wolfram to solve some simple systems of equations involving x and y. I am not sure where to begin with something like this.
 
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