Basic Math Problem of the Week 11/24/2017

  • Context: Challenge 
  • Thread starter Thread starter PF PotW Robot
  • Start date Start date
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a basic math problem involving the equation \(\frac{1}{4}\left(\sin\left(\frac{\pi x}{2}\right)\right)^2+2x^4-5x^2+1=0\). Participants explore various methods to solve the equation, including numerical approaches and algebraic manipulation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the \(-5x^2\) term is crucial for balancing the positive terms, indicating that \(x\) should be greater than zero but not too large to avoid dominating the equation.
  • Another participant notes the symmetry of the function around \(x=0\), implying that solutions may exist in both positive and negative domains.
  • A participant claims to have found a root at \(x=\pm (1/2)\) and discusses the process of transforming the fourth-degree equation into a quadratic form, leading to further roots at \(x=\pm (3/2)\).
  • There is an indication that the initial root found may not be a double root, as further analysis suggests different factors for the equation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express different methods and findings regarding the roots of the equation, with no clear consensus on the best approach or the completeness of the solutions presented.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the behavior of the function and the significance of specific terms in the equation are present, but these are not universally agreed upon. The exploration of roots and their multiplicities remains unresolved.

PF PotW Robot
Here is this week's basic math problem. We also encourage finding different methods to the solution. If one has been found, see if there is another way. Using spoiler tags is optional. Occasionally there will be prizes for extraordinary or clever methods.

Solve \frac{1}{4}\left(\sin\left(\frac{\pi x}{2}\right)\right)^2+2x^4-5x^2+1=0

(PotW thanks to our friends at http://www.mathhelpboards.com/)
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Charles Link
Physics news on Phys.org
For those who don't want to think too much, we know that the ##-5x^2## term is the only one that can offset all the other positive terms. So x needs to be well over zero but not enough to make the ##+4x^4## too large. So setting this up in a spreadsheet with values of x from 0 to 1.5 quickly reveals the answer.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Charles Link and Greg Bernhardt
W.l.o.g.
.Scott said:
So x needs to be well over zero
since the function is symmetric to ##x=0##.
 
I got lucky and found one root immediately. ## x=\pm (1/2) ##. ## \\ ## Editing: Making a quadratic equation out of the fourth power equation with the value at ## x=\pm (1/2) ## inserted for ## \sin^2(\frac{\pi x}{2})=\frac{1}{2} ## shows that ## x=\pm (1/2) ## is not a double root of the fourth power equation= quadratic equation in ##x^2 ##. Instead, the factoring is ## (2x^2-\frac{1}{2})(x^2-\frac{9}{4})=0 ##. Trying ## x=\pm (3/2) ##, (solution to ## x^2-\frac{9}{4}=0 ##), gives the same value for ## \sin^2(\frac{\pi x}{2})=\frac{1}{2} ## that ## x=\pm (1/2) ## gave. Thereby, the other roots are in fact ##x=\pm 3/2 ##.
 
Last edited:
Please see my edited addition to post 4.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
4K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K