Basic Math Problem of the Week 10/25/2017

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a basic math problem involving a cubic equation. Participants are tasked with finding all real numbers ##k## such that the cubic equation ##5x^3-5(k+1)x^2+(71k-1)x-(66k-1)=0## has three positive integer roots. The scope includes problem interpretation, solution methods, and potential community engagement in finding different approaches.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant clarifies that the problem requires finding values of ##k## that ensure the roots of the cubic equation are positive integers.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the problem statement and seeks confirmation on the interpretation that the roots must be integers, alongside the condition that ##k## is a real number.
  • A third participant agrees with the interpretation that the goal is to find all real numbers ##k## such that the cubic polynomial has three positive integers as roots.
  • A later reply mentions that there was confusion regarding the problem, indicating that it was posted on behalf of another member, which may have contributed to the misunderstanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the interpretation of the problem, specifically that the roots must be positive integers. However, there is some initial confusion regarding the clarity of the problem statement.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the potential ambiguity in the problem statement and the need for clear communication in mathematical problems. There may be unresolved aspects regarding the methods to find the values of ##k##.

Who May Find This Useful

Members interested in problem-solving, particularly in algebra and cubic equations, as well as those looking to engage with community-driven mathematical discussions.

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Here is this week's basic math problem. We have several members who will check solutions, but we also welcome the community in general to step in. We also encourage finding different methods to the solution. If one has been found, see if there is another way. Using spoiler tags is optional. Occasionally there will be prizes for extraordinary or clever methods. Spoiler tags are optional.

Find all real numbers ##k## that give the three roots of the cubic equation ##5x^3-5(k+1)x^2+(71k-1)x-(66k-1)=0## are positive integers.

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PotW Tobor said:
Find all real numbers k that give the three roots of the cubic equation 5x3−5(k+1)x2+(71k−1)x−(66k−1)=05x^3-5(k+1)x^2+(71k-1)x-(66k-1)=0 are positive integers.
This problem statement does not parse into understandable English for me. Here is my guess about what it means.

The roots of the cubic equation are to be integers, and this is an additional constraint on the acceptable values of k besides that k must be a real number. Is this correct?
 
That’s how I interpreted it as well.

“Find all real numbers k such that ... has three positive integers as roots.”
 
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Hello, PF community! :biggrin:

I was contacted by Greg, who let me know there was some confusion regarding this problem.

I posted that problem over at MHB, but I was standing in for our regular Secondary School POTW Director, and she provided the problem to me to post in her absence.

What you want to find is all values of ##k\in\mathbb{R}## such that the given cubic polynomial will have positive integers for all three of its roots.
 
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