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Find the minimum value of ##\dfrac{1}{a-b}+\dfrac{1}{b-c}+\dfrac{1}{a-c}## for all reals ##a>b>c##, given ##(a-b)(b-c)(a-c)=17##
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we may guess that ##p = 0.5## by symmetry, and we recover the answer above ## = \frac{5}{68^\frac{1}{3}} \approx 1.224993##.
Alternatively, we can differentiate ##\text{ObjectiveFunction}## once and get something ugly, but it is easy to plug in ##p = \frac{1}{2}## and confirm that the derivative is zero there.
And we can verify that the second derivative is continuously positive for ##p \in (0,1)## via plotting it. The actual equation is rather horrific. The prior posting under "surgery" is probably a cleaner, albeit indirect, approach.
##min (\frac{z^2+\frac{17}{z}}{17})## with constraint ##zx(z-x)=17## and ##z>x>0##,
solving the constraint(quadratic to z) for z>x we get ##z=\frac{1}{2}(x+\sqrt\frac{x^3+68}{x})## so
##min (\frac{z^2+\frac{17}{z}}{17})=min (\frac{\sqrt{x(x^3+68)}}{17}+\frac{1}{x})## , x>0.
So far we have reduced a minimizing problem with 3 variables to a minimizing problem of 1 variable but still the first derivative is quite ugly, hmm any ideas on finding the minimum of that?
I wonder if using Kuhn-Tucker in the form of f(x,y) or f(z) will work...
I am not sure if i can invoke a symmetry argument, we can see that the objective function ##f(x,y)=\frac{(x+y)^2+xy}{17}## and the constraint ##xy(x+y)=17## are both symmetric in x and y so we can claim that the minimum is at ##x=y## such that ##2x^3=17##, ##x=(\frac{17}{2})^\frac{1}{3}## and ##min f=\frac{5}{17}x^2##
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Buzz Bloom
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Delta² said:
so we can claim that the minimum is at x=yx=y
Hi Della:
Could not symmetry also imply that x=y could be a max or a min?
Could not symmetry also imply that x=y could be a max or a min?
Regards,
Buzz
Well, it could have been a max instead of a min, but if we plug some other values for x and y that satisfy the constraint, we will see that ##f(x,y)>\frac{5}{17}(\frac{17}{2})^{\frac{2}{3}}##
besides, the existence of the minimum is given implicitly as it says "Find the minimum". Otherwise it would say "Prove that a minimum exists and find it".
This is a sneaky problem that I spent a bit too much time thinking about -- there's a lot of nice structure, with a couple of wrenches that seem to have deliberately been thrown in by the creator.
The case we were given is for ##n=2##. Here is a look at the general ##n## case, with particular emphasis on large ##n##.
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The constraint can be written as
##\big(\prod_{j=1}^n x_j\big)\big( \sum_{j=1}^n x_j\big) = c ##
where c is some constant --equal to 17 in our problem.
While the upper and lower bound are flexible, it's worth pointing out that the ##n\big(\frac{n}{c}\big)^{\frac{1}{n+1}}##, which is sandwhiched in between, is constant because any given problem has some fixed ##n## number of terms, and some constant ##c## supplied. Additionally, we know that the equality case occurs iff ##x_1 = x_2 = ... = x_n##.
It gets difficult, because the problem then asks us to minimize
recalling that ## 0 \leq \frac{\text{LowerBound}}{\text{UpperBound}} \leq 1##
That is our ##\text{ObjectiveFunction}## essentially is the upper bound for large ##n## and we cannot possibly hope to minimize the ##\text{ObjectiveFunction}## unless ##\text{UpperBound}## is minimized which occurs iff ##x_1 = x_2 = ... = x_n##
Here is the closed form, general solution to this problem
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skip to the "edit" comment at the very end for a much more slick solution that takes the prior posting, and in 5 lines gets to a general closed form solution
this occurs iff ##x_1 = x_2 = ... = x_n##
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in our specific problem that gives us
##\frac{5}{2} \big(\frac{2}{17}\big)^\frac{1}{3} = 5 \big(\frac{2}{8*17}\big)^\frac{1}{3} = 5\big(\frac{1}{4*17}\big)^\frac{1}{3} = \frac{5}{68^\frac{1}{3}}##
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Full derivation is below. (Long story short, it's just repeated application of ##AM \geq GM## with some extra care to preserve the equality case at each invocation of an upper bound.
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the constraint can be written as