Basic numeracy - exact meaning of accurate to one part in a thousand

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of the phrase "accurate to one part in a thousand" in the context of a Coulomb model for the ground-state energy of a hydrogen atom. The original poster is trying to determine the implications of this accuracy on a perturbative correction to the energy calculation.

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  • The original poster questions whether the correction should not exceed +/- 0.001 J or +/- 0.00049999 J. Another participant suggests that "accurate to one part in a thousand" implies a range of +/- 0.0005 J. There is also a discussion about whether the correction should be strictly less than 0.0005 J to avoid rounding issues.

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The discussion is exploring different interpretations of the accuracy requirement and how it applies to the perturbative correction. Participants are engaging with the nuances of the definitions and implications without reaching a consensus.

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There is an underlying concern about the implications of rounding in the context of numerical accuracy, as well as the need for clarity on the definition of "one part in a thousand." The participants are navigating these conceptual challenges in a homework context.

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Basic numeracy - exact meaning of "accurate to one part in a thousand"

Homework Statement



I have a standard Coulomb model for the ground-state energy of a hydrogen atom. I have used peturbation theory to calculate a (fictitious) first order correction to the model, which contains a constant a.
I now have to find the largest value of a which will be consistent with the fact that the Coulomb model is accurate to one part in a thousand.
It's a basic numeracy problem, despite being a complicated topic. Does accurate to one part in a thousand mean that the correction shouldn't contribute more than +/- 0.001 J to the energy calculated using the Coulomb model, or does it mean it shouldn't add more than +/- 0.00049999 J?
A bit basic, I know, but I don't want to fail at this final hurdle.
Thanks in advance.

Homework Equations



##E = E_c + \delta E##

The Attempt at a Solution

 
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Homework Statement



I have a standard Coulomb model for the ground-state energy of a hydrogen atom. I have used peturbation theory to calculate a (fictitious) first order correction to the model, which contains a constant a.
I now have to find the largest value of a which will be consistent with the fact that the Coulomb model is accurate to one part in a thousand.
It's a basic numeracy problem, despite being a complicated topic. Does accurate to one part in a thousand mean that the correction shouldn't contribute more than +/- 0.001 J to the energy calculated using the Coulomb model, or does it mean it shouldn't add more than +/- 0.00049999 J?
Why "-.00049999"? Why exactly 4 "9"s? "Accurate to one part in a thousand" means within [itex]\pm 0.0005[/tex].<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> A bit basic, I know, but I don't want to fail at this final hurdle.<br /> Thanks in advance.<br /> <br /> <h2>Homework Equations</h2><br /> <br /> ##E = E_c + \delta E##<br /> <br /> <br /> <h2>The Attempt at a Solution</h2> </div> </div> </blockquote>[/itex]
 
Well, perhaps that was a bit sloppy. My point was that shouldn't it be ##\delta E < 0.0005## (instead of ##\delta E \leq 0.0005##) because if the correction was actually 0.0005 then it could be rounded up to 0.001, thereby altering the one part in a thousand?
I don't know if I've explained my dilemma properly there...
 
One part in a thousand means ##|\delta E/E_c|## needs to be less than 1/1000.
 
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