Basic Quantum mechanics, H2 approximation with SHO

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The discussion focuses on approximating the H2 molecule as a simple harmonic oscillator with a spring constant of k = 1.1 x 103 N/m. The energy levels are calculated using the formula En = (n + 1/2) h_bar*ω, where ω is derived from the spring constant and the reduced mass of the H2 molecule. The user initially miscalculated the energy levels and wavelengths of emitted photons when transitioning from the third excited state to the ground state, leading to confusion regarding the correct values provided in the textbook.

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Homework Statement



A H2 molecule can be approximated by a simple harmonic oscillator having spring constant k = 1.1*10^3 N/m. Find a() the energy levels, and (b) the possible wavelengths of photons emitted when the H2 molecule decays from the third excited state eventually to the ground state.

Homework Equations



En = ( n + 1/2 ) h_bar*ω

w^2 = k/m

The Attempt at a Solution



I solved for omega by √(1.1E3/(2*(mass of electron(kg) + mass of proton + mass of neutron))
then multiplied by the eV version of h_bar and got En=(n+1/2).2668 eV

However the book says its En=(n+1/2).755eV


I tried using the books answer to solve for the mass, and got 8.53E-28 kg but I can't see where they would be getting that answer.





However, I tried solving party b assuming the books answer was correct


First I solved for each energy level drop

E_3→1 = (3+1/2).755 - (1+1/2).755 = 1.52 eV corresponding λ = 815.8 nm books answer = 549 nm

E_3→2 = (3+1/2).755 - (2+1/2).755 = .76 eV corresponding λ = 1631.6 nm books λ=821 nm

E_2→1 = (2+1/2).755 - (1+1/2).755 = .76 eV corresponding λ = 1631.58 nm books λ = 1640 nm



please help me solve this problem I am quite confused
 
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osheari1 said:
I solved for omega by √(1.1E3/(2*(mass of electron(kg) + mass of proton + mass of neutron))
then multiplied by the eV version of h_bar and got En=(n+1/2).2668 eV
Why are you using the mass of a neutron? H2 doesn't have any neutrons.
However the book says its En=(n+1/2).755eV


I tried using the books answer to solve for the mass, and got 8.53E-28 kg but I can't see where they would be getting that answer.
You need to use the reduced mass. Do you know how to calculate that?

However, I tried solving party b assuming the books answer was correct


First I solved for each energy level drop

E_3→1 = (3+1/2).755 - (1+1/2).755 = 1.52 eV corresponding λ = 815.8 nm books answer = 549 nm

E_3→2 = (3+1/2).755 - (2+1/2).755 = .76 eV corresponding λ = 1631.6 nm books λ=821 nm

E_2→1 = (2+1/2).755 - (1+1/2).755 = .76 eV corresponding λ = 1631.58 nm books λ = 1640 nm



please help me solve this problem I am quite confused
The first excited state is n=2, so the third excited state is n=?
 
ahh right, H doesn't have neutrons
However, even when I only use protons and electrons I get a wrong answer







and I realize my mistake for the excited states now.
 
You need to calculate the reduced mass, which is the effective mass of the oscillator.
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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